Selling water by the river? ...Bill!
--- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> Merle,
>
> Excellent question. There is guru after guru claiming HE is the only one who
> is enlightened and can pass that enlightenment on - but first you have to pay!
>
> Edgar
>
>
>
> On Nov 20, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Merle Lester wrote:
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> >
> >
> > how can we be so sure that the master is truly awake, joe?.... merle
> >
> >
> >
> > Brother Suresh,
> >
> > Mind is a funny thing. Sometimes we can convince ourselves that, "Now I've
> > seen everything!", and be happy. But a teacher might say we have not
> > entered the door, yet.
> >
> > A book cannot interact with us in this way, because the "content" of the
> > book is only open to our interpretation, and out interpretation can be
> > hundreds of miles OFF.
> >
> > And if the Intellect does the judging, you are already wrong.
> >
> > If you read the Zen literature and accounts of the masters, you will see
> > many stories of monks stepping forward, claiming to be "enlightened" after
> > reading many Sutras, etc., but the master hits them with a stick and chases
> > them back to the meditation hall to "Work harder!, you faker!"
> >
> > Words are GOADS, but cannot give you an examination. Only the Doctor can.
> >
> > A book can teach you some methods and attitudes, but it CANNOT test you on
> > whether you have truly shed your skin or not. Another individual who is
> > AWAKE must do this, or you may in fact be hundreds of miles off-course, and
> > all hands will be lost.
> >
> > You need GPS! Dead-reckoning too often results in wrecks.
> >
> > --Joe
> >
> > > SURESH JAGADEESAN <varamtha@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Joe: A teacher is needed to help us persist the right way(s).
> > >
> > > Suresh: Do you mean a teacher in living body form? Why not a teacher
> > > be a book? Or why not it is nature? or why not it is a situation?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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