Mike,

LOL! Depends if I can get a publisher or have to do it myself...

Do you want the leather bound gold stamped edition?
:-)

O, on second thought I'll send you a free copy if you promise to behave 
yourself.
:-)

Edgar



On Nov 20, 2012, at 6:58 PM, mike brown wrote:

> 
> Edgar,
> 
> >There is guru after guru claiming HE is the only one who is enlightened and 
> >can pass that enlightenment on - but first you have to pay!
> 
> How do we go about getting a free copy of your soon to be published book then?
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2012, 23:40
> Subject: Re: [Zen] the zen spirit
> 
>  
> Merle,
> 
> Excellent question. There is guru after guru claiming HE is the only one who 
> is enlightened and can pass that enlightenment on - but first you have to pay!
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 20, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Merle Lester wrote:
> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>  how can we be so sure that the master is truly awake, joe?.... merle
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> Brother Suresh,
>> 
>> Mind is a funny thing. Sometimes we can convince ourselves that, "Now I've 
>> seen everything!", and be happy. But a teacher might say we have not entered 
>> the door, yet.
>> 
>> A book cannot interact with us in this way, because the "content" of the 
>> book is only open to our interpretation, and out interpretation can be 
>> hundreds of miles OFF.
>> 
>> And if the Intellect does the judging, you are already wrong.
>> 
>> If you read the Zen literature and accounts of the masters, you will see 
>> many stories of monks stepping forward, claiming to be "enlightened" after 
>> reading many Sutras, etc., but the master hits them with a stick and chases 
>> them back to the meditation hall to "Work harder!, you faker!"
>> 
>> Words are GOADS, but cannot give you an examination. Only the Doctor can.
>> 
>> A book can teach you some methods and attitudes, but it CANNOT test you on 
>> whether you have truly shed your skin or not. Another individual who is 
>> AWAKE must do this, or you may in fact be hundreds of miles off-course, and 
>> all hands will be lost.
>> 
>> You need GPS! Dead-reckoning too often results in wrecks.
>> 
>> --Joe
>> 
>> > SURESH JAGADEESAN <varamtha@...> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Joe: A teacher is needed to help us persist the right way(s).
>> > 
>> > Suresh: Do you mean a teacher in living body form? Why not a teacher
>> > be a book? Or why not it is nature? or why not it is a situation?
>> 
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