Suresh,
Good post.
Yes, there is only one guru (though I prefer the word teacher because guru has
become equated with charlatan in Western terminology though I understand not in
Indian language).
Reality is the only guru, and any part of reality is enough to teach
realization.
The attachment to some particular man as master is just another attachment to
be dropped.
The notion that realization can only be transmitted through some human master
is a delusion....
Edgar
On Nov 20, 2012, at 11:51 PM, SURESH JAGADEESAN wrote:
> Joe: "Now I've seen everything!", and be happy. But a teacher might
> say we have not entered the door, yet.
>
> Suresh: Who is teacher? If the whole universe is not your teacher, how
> can some human form be teacher? Even if I accept your argument to have
> a teacher; how one to recognize an enlightened teacher?
>
> In India there are crores of teachers, each claim to be seen god or
> vision of god or enlightened and each has tail of gurus inherited. You
> should go and see in Kasi or even in Thiruvannamalai.
>
> There are very famous gurus like Jaggi Vasudev or Sri.Ravi shanker
> etc., you can read their books, but to meet them personally is not
> easy and it could be even expensive. I have visited Jaggi Vasudev
> established temple and ashram (Isha Foundation). He claims that those
> who do not have idea of meditation can also feel meditation experience
> while sitting in front of the Shiva linga which he established. Since
> I went with children, I could not sit there for a while, just taken a
> round of shivalinga and came out. But I was attracted by it.
>
> Now when you have no access to guru, only books can be of any help.
> That too well known gurus like Ramana Maharishi. Reading a book is
> different, but reading a book of guru is different. When you put all
> your attention to read and understand a guru book, that itself take
> you to meditative mood. Those words carry the guru’s power. A guru is
> not dead at any time. In truth there has been only one guru, who only
> manifest in different human form at different places and at different
> time.
>
> You guys are opportunistic and hence you had gurus and live in
> isolated areas and drown in meditation. But you all are not world. The
> reality world is in cities, in towns, in villages, those mass where
> they will get gurus and isolated places? So a book helps those mass,
> or a temple or that kind of place helps those people to feel certain
> amount meditation or divinity.
>
> Our divinity or meditation should be such that it should not get
> disturbed or diluted even while living in crowd. You should radiate
> peace/mediation around you wherever you go just like a flower. A
> flower gives irrespective of where it is kept. It can be kept on
> Buddha or any god idol or it can be on any ladies head or it can be in
> the hands of man as bouquet or it is in the road side stall but it
> continues to give its fragrance. That should be our mediation power;
> you radiate it wherever you are.
>
> After reading a book if anyone claims to be enlightened it can be true
> or it can be false. If it is false it will be immediately known to
> all, the god will remove his false mask through environment. (One will
> be tested), if you are really enlightened, that too will come out in
> the open, god will reveal himself through enlightened soul.
>
> If one can see a guru in human form, then book is also a form, guru
> can come to you like book also. Reading again and again will be like
> guru is teaching day by day. Any false interpretation of yours will be
> cleared and truth will reveal by reading the book reading again and
> again. Once you tasted the guru’s book, reading again and again is a
> voluntary process. Guru will pull you towards him.
>
> It is far better to read enlightened guru books then getting caught by
> a false guru and go astray.
>
> Best wishes
> Suresh
>
>
>
>
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