Joe,

"All beings have the (Buddha's) wisdom but they realize it not" is EXACTLY what 
I keep repeating here over and over again when I keep saying "everyone is 
already enlightened, it's just a matter of realizing you are."

Funny how no one listens to it or believes it when I SAY IT!

NIce to hear Buddha quoting ME!
:-)


EDgar



On Nov 24, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Joe wrote:

> Edgar,
> 
> I think the other fellow's expression is good, even if couched in everyday 
> language (..."ought"...). 
> 
> If you recall what Shakyamuni is said to have said immediately after he 
> awoke, seeing Venus, it's a lot like "RAF's" expression (BTW, is he/she an 
> entire air force?).
> 
> Something like: "All beings have the Tathagata's wisdom, but they realize it 
> NOT!"
> 
> So... for those beings, things unfold as they unfold, and they suffer.
> (as RAF says).
> 
> And then, Buddha went on to teach the Four Noble Truths at the Deer Park, 
> etc., after he first went back and taught to his five teachers.
> 
> Taken by itself as you post it here, RAF's sentence is sweet.
> 
> It may be unfair to quote RAF out of context, but it's still good stuff, of 
> his. In the light of what the Buddha said. And taught. Thanks for it!
> 
> I hope RAF is tipped-off to the fact that a practitioner can change things. 
> He must be, if he knows about the Four Noble Truths. Or by your middle and 
> third paragraph.
> 
> (a Zen practitioner, is he/she?).
> 
> --Joe
> 
> > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
> >
> > Here is my response to a post on another group about Zen... [snip]
> 
> 

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