On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:21 AM, R A Fonda <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On 12/12/2012 11:48 AM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:
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> Is this the system you think would be better than our tax based system?
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> You seem to be under the misapprehension that because I foresee something
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You wrote of some better system than democracy:

> IS democracy *really* better than all the alternatives? I submit that it
is not

I took your email to mean that you preferred the foreseen anarchy system
following the collapse was a sample alternative.  So if not anarchy, then
what system is better than democracy?

>  I live in California
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> So, if you can't already recognize a disaster-in-progress, there is no
> point in my trying to edify you.
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It is always too soon to say if things are going well or badly.

A comment on disasters in California - the earthquakes are less fuss than
the hurricanes I got on the east coast of the US - you just prep and then
hopefully it will turn out ok, but there's no advance warning.  No
"tropical depression forming off of the blah blah islands."  No unneeded
evacuations.


> The fact that supposedly 'awakened beings' can't apprehend the inevitable
> results of current trends and policy (indeed, argue for hair-of-the-dog
> cures) falsifies their pretensions to enlightenment.
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Not sure if you are referring to me here, but I am not an awakened being
except in the ordinary sense, I have an aha moment that I was not paying
attention many times a day (some days only 3 times, some days more often).
 Over and over, I return to the present.

And I am not "enlightened" in any sense.  Just watch me interacting with my
spouse or children, or listen to my thoughts during a meeting displaying
particularly obtuse statements.

Even to the extent that I find non-dual experience to be a thing I think we
all have access to, it has nothing to do with "apprehending results" - it
is just here, just now.  The simplest householder free to sweep their floor
with not a thought in their head knows it; each time you see your kids ice
cream falling from the cone and you catch it with no gap no thought just
seeing and moving, you know this ground.  Not intellection - tho I side
with Edgar in that perceiving the contents of the mind is no different than
perceiving the contents of the eyes or the contents of the touch (where
Bill! seems to draw a line between those two).




Thanks,

--Chris
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