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folk are there with their mouths open wide and their palms greased ready to take... be it zen or be it blow jobs.. .that is the nature of the beast as it stands today.. merle On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote: Chris, and what is that? The fact $120 is a lot more money than you'd have to pay for a blowjob? > No, not really. Zazen doesn't really remove our actual physical existence, and for many people, paying money to a person perceived as more wise is a much different experience, no doubt based on our primate biological karma, than giving a blow job to a person perceived as more wise. I personally would not recommend a center where people routinely were asked for blow jobs by the teacher to anyone. I would also probably not recommend a center where everything was free; I find the standard (in my experience) of having suggested fees to cover costs but no one turned away to work well. Perhaps you are one of those people that would rather give a blowjob than pay a fee, but most generally people aren't like that. Thanks, --Chris [email protected] +1-301-270-6524 ...Bill! > > >--- In [email protected], Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote: >> >> According to contemporary standards, why yes there is. >> >> Thanks, >> --Chris >> 301-270-6524 > >> On Feb 20, 2013 12:14 AM, "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote: >> >> > Is there a difference between a teacher giving lessons to students for >> > $120 and one giving them in return for a blowjob? >> > >> > ...Bill! >> > > >> > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote: >> > > >> > > Merle, >> > > >> > > The biographer interviewed some 427 people who knew John while alive. I >> > call that working from Primary Sources. What a thorough job, Merle! >> > > >> > > Since the subject has left the planet, one has to go to the next closest >> > authorities. One can also go to writings, movies, videos, diaries, and >> > Police records. All of which the biographer did, and more. >> > > >> > > Don't you think that such interviewing and canvassing and documentation >> > is what a legitimate biographer should and must do? I do. >> > > >> > > The fact that Goldman paints what for some is an unpleasant or >> > disillusioning painting of Lennon (and his association with Ono) does not >> > make him a bad painter. >> > > >> > > I don't find the work unpleasant at all, but I do find it disturbing, >> > and informative. And illuminating into many corners of a formative time in >> > my life. >> > > >> > > For that and for Goldman's outstanding service, I'm grateful, even if >> > Lennon is not the star of the Show. The Music stands, though. >> > > >> > > Goldman's bio (with Schiller) of Lenny Bruce is pretty good, too. >> > > >> > > (this continues to be off-topic in a Zen-echo, and I apologize for that, >> > All). >> > > >> > > --Joe >> > > >> > > > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > joe no more than your knowledge ..from books..merle >> > > > >> > > > My Merle, >> > > > >> > > > "Them", who, you mean them Beatles? >> > > > >> > > > I hear his voice... I see his EYES, as Edgar sees eyes... . >> > > > >> > > > I read ... progressive tense... Al Goldman's (1988) bio of John... . >> > > > >> > > > And, hey, what do you claim to KNOW, and how do you know it, if you >> > care for a little Epistemological exercise... . >> > > > >> > > > Thought so. >> > > > >> > > > People damn the Press, but we only know what the Press tells. And the >> > illicit Press. >> > > > >> > > > ;-( >> > > > >> > > > But, no, have a go. Don't let me be cause a break in your gait, Mate. >> > > > >> > > > --Joe ;-) >> > > > >> > > > PS And YOU read it... "nowhere"? I challenge you on your sources, >> > too. What's a Cousin to do? We're family. >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are >> > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >------------------------------------ > >Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are >reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
