A picture of a rice cake is not a rice cake, but it's still a rice cake.
 It should be painted with attention.

Thanks,

--Chris
[email protected]
+1-301-270-6524


On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:29 AM, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote:

> Chris,
>
> Me?  Rather give a blowjob than pay a [monetary] fee?  I guess that all
> depends on the fee...Bill!
>
> --- In [email protected], Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Chris, and what is that?  The fact $120 is a lot more money than you'd
> > > have to pay for a blowjob?
> > >
> >
> > No, not really.  Zazen doesn't really remove our actual physical
> existence,
> > and for many people, paying money to a person perceived as more wise is a
> > much different experience, no doubt based on our primate biological
> karma,
> > than giving a blow job to a person perceived as more wise.  I personally
> > would not recommend a center where people routinely were asked for blow
> > jobs by the teacher to anyone.  I would also probably not recommend a
> > center where everything was free; I find the standard (in my experience)
> of
> > having suggested fees to cover costs but no one turned away to work well.
> >
> > Perhaps you are one of those people that would rather give a blowjob than
> > pay a fee, but most generally people aren't like that.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --Chris
> > chris@...
> > +1-301-270-6524
> >
> >
> > ...Bill!
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Chris Austin-Lane <chris@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > According to contemporary standards, why yes there is.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > --Chris
> > > > 301-270-6524
> > > >  On Feb 20, 2013 12:14 AM, "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Is there a difference between a teacher giving lessons to students
> for
> > > > > $120 and one giving them in return for a blowjob?
> > > > >
> > > > > ...Bill!
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Merle,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The biographer interviewed some 427 people who knew John while
> > > alive.  I
> > > > > call that working from Primary Sources.  What a thorough job,
> Merle!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since the subject has left the planet, one has to go to the next
> > > closest
> > > > > authorities.  One can also go to writings, movies, videos,
> diaries, and
> > > > > Police records.  All of which the biographer did, and more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don't you think that such interviewing and canvassing and
> > > documentation
> > > > > is what a legitimate biographer should and must do?  I do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The fact that Goldman paints what for some is an unpleasant or
> > > > > disillusioning painting of Lennon (and his association with Ono)
> does
> > > not
> > > > > make him a bad painter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't find the work unpleasant at all, but I do find it
> disturbing,
> > > > > and informative.  And illuminating into many corners of a formative
> > > time in
> > > > > my life.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For that and for Goldman's outstanding service, I'm grateful,
> even if
> > > > > Lennon is not the star of the Show.  The Music stands, though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Goldman's bio (with Schiller) of Lenny Bruce is pretty good, too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (this continues to be off-topic in a Zen-echo, and I apologize
> for
> > > that,
> > > > > All).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --Joe
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  joe  no more than your knowledge ..from books..merle
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My Merle,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Them", who, you mean them Beatles?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I hear his voice... I see his EYES, as Edgar sees eyes... .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I read ... progressive tense... Al Goldman's (1988) bio of
> John...
> > > .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And, hey, what do you claim to KNOW, and how do you know it,
> if you
> > > > > care for a little Epistemological exercise... .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thought so.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > People damn the Press, but we only know what the Press tells.
>  And
> > > the
> > > > > illicit Press.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ;-(
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But, no, have a go.  Don't let me be cause a break in your
> gait,
> > > Mate.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --Joe  ;-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PS  And YOU read it... "nowhere"?  I challenge you on your
> sources,
> > > > > too.  What's a Cousin to do?  We're family.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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