Merle, Yes, all concepts. I usually don't call them 'fantasy' but 'illusions'. There's not much difference between the two.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > >  bill...ok..fantasy for god ..i see...anything else you put into that > box?..merle > > >  > Merle, > > These grounds are the basis for the definition of 'fantasy'. > > I answered your question saying that I thought God is a fantasy. > > Therefore all (or most anyway) of these characteristics fit my concept of God. > > IMO...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > àbill...so on those grounds what's that got to do with "god"?..merle > > > > > > à> > Merle, > > > > On what grounds? > > > > Well, MY dictionary defines 'fantasy' as: > > > > "Definition of FANTASY > > > > 1: ... hallucination > > 2: fancy; especially : the free play of creative imagination > > 3: a creation of the imaginative faculty whether expressed or merely > > conceived: as > > a : a fanciful design or invention > > b : a chimerical or fantastic notion > > c : fantasia 1 > > d : imaginative fiction featuring especially strange settings and > > grotesque characters ââ¬"called also fantasy fiction > > 4: caprice > > 5: the power or process of creating especially unrealistic or improbable > > mental images in response to psychological need <an object of fantasy>; > > also : a mental image or a series of mental images (as a daydream) so > > created <sexual fantasies>" - Merriam-Webster Online > > > > I'd say on ALL of the grounds above...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâàbill..on what grounds?..merle > > > Ãâà> > > Merle, > > > > > > Do I believe the concept of God is a fantasy? Yes, of course I do...Bill! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàwhy not bill?... do you believe it's a > > > > fantasy?..merle > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > I don't see anything rational about the concept of God at all...Bill! > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàedgar..jesus..we see "eye > > > > > to eye"... merle > > > > > > > > > > Merle, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that's the ONLY rational definition of God.... > > > > > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 17, 2013, at 3:12 AM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàmike..are not "god" and > > > > > >nature but one? merle > > > > > >ÃÆ'Ã'âââ¬à ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > > > Merle, > > > > > > > > > > > > Ineed we are, and as such it's best we grow up and flow wih the > > > > > > laws of nature than hope a god will look after us. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ > > > > > >> ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ mike..we are part > > > > > >> and parcel of nature..what is the point you are making...? merle > > > > > >> ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ÃÆ'Ã'ââ∠> > > > > >> ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > > >> Merle, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Buddhism would say - what will you do if the road doesn't rise up > > > > > >> to meet you? Or the wind is head-on and the sun isn't warm on your > > > > > >> face? Better to rely on ourselves than a god. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Mike (who is celebrating with my Celtic cousins) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Why not!ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââ¬Â > > > > > >>>> 'ÃÆ'Ã'ÃââÃÆ'âââ∠> > > > > >>>> ¡ÃâìÃÆ'ââ¬Â¦ÃâáÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ > > > > > >>>> 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ÃÆ'Ã'ââ∠> > > > > >>>> ¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ÃâàHappy Every Day,ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââ¬Â > > > > > >>>> 'ÃÆ'Ã'ÃââÃÆ'âââ∠> > > > > >>>> ¡ÃâìÃÆ'ââ¬Â¦ÃâáÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ > > > > > >>>> 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> ÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Ã'ÃââÃÆ'âââ∠> > > > > >>>> ¡ÃâìÃÆ'ââ¬Â¦ÃâáÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ > > > > > >>>> 'ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¡ > > > > > >>>> A HAPPY ST. 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