interesting..food for thought...

 jesus said i am god's son..god said he was his son yet god and jesus are one..

interesting that jesus moved away from jewish faith to eventually create by 
others christianity...

quite a story...
 are you telling me then that the jewish faith has holes in it that god was not 
pleased..?

and as for buddha..well what was his gripe with hindu faith?...

surely there must have been good dudes in all the faiths that they left 
behind...

as they say the caravan moves on..

will it move on in the zen buddhism story too..?...

and joe your constant "badgering"  me about going to group zen hangouts is like 
telling me i can't be a true zen buddhist

 is liken to saying cos i do not go to a church i am not a true christian...

false some of the most enlightened folk do not enter monasteries or churches.. 

as we see in history..

jesus was fed up with all the "bullshit " that went on in the temples..

and joe did he not throw the money changing tables to the ground?...

this is why i always have a spack attack when you go on about money...you you 
the big capitalist..

to my mind jesus was the first socialist..witness the sharing of the bread and 
fish...

 those folk who meditate in quiet places, deserts and forests alone  are they 
not in tune with the very music of the spheres...?

 noisy churches and dusty halls are they not distractions?

 where is peace?

 where is it?

 merle

  
Bill!,

quoting:
"But did Buddha have any real Buddhist credentials? Nope..."

Why, he didn't even have a Buddha statue on his altar!  ;-)

--Joe

> "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
>
> Merle,
> 
> IMO...
> 
> No,Buddha (Gautama Shiddartha) was not a Zen Buddhist or a Buddhist.  I 
> believe he was a Hindu.
> 
> But that's like asking if Jesus was a Christian.  No, he wasn't. He was a 
> Jew.  Christianity came after Jesus.
> 
> I think what you mean to ask is 'did Buddha practice zen'?  And if that's 
> your question I'd say 'yes'.  At least he meditated is what I would call is 
> very much what we know today as 'zazen', and he 'started zen' when he 
> 'transmitted the Dharma' to his student Mahakasyapa at his famous 'Flower 
> Sermon' at Vulture Peak.
> 
> But did Buddha have any real Buddhist credentials? Nope...
> 
> ...Bill!


 

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