Merle,

Taking a few points of yours in turn, and in my stride:

I'll badger no more.  I know we don't need no "steenking Badges!"

(company and comradery is what I would seek in practice, though, just because I 
know it can be wonderful and efficacious.  Especially if a leader or teacher is 
helpful.  I think you probably taught your art classes in a group situation?  
Maybe a little like that.  Private lessons are just too, well, personal, often.

The Jewish faith felt the need for, or looked for, a messiah.  Not all the Jews 
agreed on which one -- Who -- it was, or was to be.

The ones who went with Jesus -- or, later, Paul -- call themselves Christians.  
They call the new arrangement "The New Covenant": It's not the Law that's in 
charge anymore; it's Grace.

The other ones are still waiting.  And telling pretty great jokes.

Gandhi taught that, "There is no path to Peace.  Peace is the way".  That's 
where peace is, I'd say.

--Joe

> Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
> 
> interesting..food for thought...
> 
>  jesus said i am god's son..god said he was his son yet god and jesus are 
> one..
> 
> interesting that jesus moved away from jewish faith to eventually create by 
> others christianity...
> 
> quite a story...
> are you telling me then that the jewish faith has holes in it that god was 
>not pleased..?
> 
> and as for buddha..well what was his gripe with hindu faith?...
> 
> surely there must have been good dudes in all the faiths that they left 
> behind...
> 
> as they say the caravan moves on..
> 
> will it move on in the zen buddhism story too..?...
> 
> and joe your constant "badgering" me about going to group zen hangouts is 
> like telling me i can't be a true zen buddhist
> 
> is liken to saying cos i do not go to a church i am not a true christian...
> 
> false some of the most enlightened folk do not enter monasteries or churches..
> 
> as we see in history..
> 
> jesus was fed up with all the "bullshit " that went on in the temples..
> 
> and joe did he not throw the money changing tables to the ground?...
> 
> this is why i always have a spack attack when you go on about money...you you 
> the big capitalist..
> 
> to my mind jesus was the first socialist..witness the sharing of the bread 
> and fish...
> 
> those folk who meditate in quiet places, deserts and forests alone are they 
>not in tune with the very music of the spheres...?
> 
> noisy churches and dusty halls are they not distractions?
> 
> where is peace?
> 
> where is it?
> 
> merle




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