Bill,

Au contraire. I have figured out that figuring out Zen is not Zen.

That's what I've been saying all along. But Bill hasn't figured out that I have 
figured out that figuring out Zen is not Zen.

Seriously!

Bill and Joe need someone to disagree with so desperately that they disagree 
with me when I'm agreeing with them.

I disagree with that!

Edgar



On May 2, 2013, at 2:33 AM, Bill! wrote:

> Joe,
> 
> No use telling Edgar that "figuring out is not Zen" if he hasn't figured it 
> out already...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote:
> >
> > Edgar,
> > 
> > You may be right, in your attempted generalization. But figuring out is not 
> > Zen, nor is it Zen practice. Full stop. This is a Zen forum.
> > 
> > --Joe
> > 
> > > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Joe,
> > > 
> > > And if the crisis is NOT immediate, like it usually isn't, the guy who 
> > > figures it out will win.
> > > 
> > > Try reading "The Art of War" or learning how to play Goh...
> >
> 
> 

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