Mike, I'm not sure how "feeling 'presence' or 'awareness' in Advaita Vedanta meditation" is described.
What would be referred to as 'clear mind' or 'empty mind' and I call 'Buddha Nature' or 'Just THIS!' vis-a-vis shikantaza is difficult to describe. As you know many koans are based on various zen masters' attempts at descriptions: Mu, Dried Shit Stick, The Oak Tree in the Garden, Gutie's finger, Joshu putting his sandals on his head, turning around and walking away, etc... I recently posted a quote from Seung Sahn in which he described it as: "Then your mind is clear like space, which is clear like a mirror: red comes, red; white comes, white. Someone is hungry, give them food. Someone is thirsty, give them a drink. Everything is reflected in this clear mirror." I can tell you there is NO perception of an 'observer' as some meditation techniques stress. I can only describe it as "Just THIS!" because as Seung Sahn says above, whatever comes just comes. It's not analyzed or even named. It's "Just THIS". ...Bill! --- In [email protected], uerusuboyo@... wrote: > > Joe, Bill!,<br/><br/>Would you say that the practice of feeling 'presence' or > 'awareness' in Advaita Vedanta meditation is the same experience found in > shikantaza?<br/><br/>Mike<br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
