lucky you mike...sweet strawberries... the sweetest i ever tasted was in helsinki finland in may 2005.. have yet to find any to compare..merle
Edgar, Yet it _does_ taste so sweet... Mike Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad ________________________________ From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>; To: <[email protected]>; Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Advaita Sent: Thu, May 16, 2013 2:11:24 PM Mike, All the forms of the world are Buddha Nature and that includes strawberries... However the taste of the strawberry is in your mind, it's a form carrying information about how your biological organism relates to the form of the strawberry... Edgar On May 16, 2013, at 9:27 AM, [email protected] wrote: >Bill! > >Yet the strawberry tastes so sweet! I just feel that your description of >Buddha Nature just doesn't seem to engage with life (and yet I know that as >'Bill!' you do!). I think it goes back to the feeling I have that what you say >about Buddha Nature, although correct, only focuses on the Absolute. Life is >recognising both the relative and absolute as truth. Who wouldn't want to >enjoy the taste of a strawberry! > >Mike > > >Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad > > > >________________________________ > From: Bill! <[email protected]>; >To: <[email protected]>; >Subject: [Zen] Re: Advaita >Sent: Wed, May 15, 2013 8:18:46 AM > > > > > >Mike, > > >What you are asking about is the very essence of zen, IMO. > > >Non-dualistic (holistic) experience is the very essence of shikantaza and >Buddha Nature as far as I'm concerned. All zen teaching techniques (counting >breaths, koans, chanting, bowing, samu, kinhin, etc...) are employed to do one >thing: stop your intellect from creating the illusion of duality. > > >When you are able to do this, to wipe away all illusions, what is left is >Buddha Nature or just holistic experience (sensual). There is no >subject/object split. There is no observer/observed, no >experience/experience. There is Just THIS! > > >For example when you bite into a lemon there is no you/lemon split, no >taste/smell split, no sour/sweet split, no lemon/other fruit split. There is >Just THIS! It's later when your intellect kicks in and you start perceiving >(rather than just experiencing) that you start assigning categories like >lemon, yellow, sour, etc... > > >That's what I mean by 'no observer' and that's what 'shikantaza' means by >'just sit', and 'clear mind' or 'no mind'. > > >If you'd like to read in more detail what I think about this you can go to: >The Origin of the Illusion of Self which is about the dualistic illusion of >self/other. > > >...Bill! > > > >--- In [email protected], uerusuboyo@... wrote: >> >> >Bill!, > >I'm interested in your point that there is no observer when sitting shikantaza. If so, are all sensations in the body-mind not experienced? If they are experienced, who or what is experiencing them? > >I'm also interested in other member's perspectives on this when they get >passed the "He said - she said" current thread.. > >Mike > >Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad >> > > >
