edgar...... illogical to you is not rational mind..so how can you say JMJM
agrees with you?...your mantra is rational mind...merle
Hi Edgar,
There is Chan in everything, form as well as formless,
logical and illogical,
On 5/18/2013 12:33 PM, Edgar Owen wrote:
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>Hi and welcome back. I've missed your contributions to the group.
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>JMJM is the only actually practicing Zen teacher on the group. Those who
>disagree with me and claim I don't understand and misrepresent Zen should take
>note that JMJM agrees with me and says that what I've been saying is in accord
>with Zen teaching....
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>Edgar
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>On May 18, 2013, at 10:39 AM, 覺妙精明 （JMJM） wrote:
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>>Yes, Edgar is right.
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>>The platform sutra said, "Buddha dharma is in
the secular world. Enlightenment to Buddhahood
occurs in every day life."
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>>In other words, only if we live in harmony with
everyone and everything, seeing the truth in
everything and everyone, then we are
enlightened. If we continue to pick or choose,
then our ego is in play. Thus Chan is ALL and
ONE at the same time.
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>>Of course, the other factor is whether the
master your agree to is enlightened or not. If
he is not enlighten, then he is just playing
with your mind and not your heart.
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>>After all, the only thing matters is heart to
heart transmission. For a few hundred years,
Buddha Heart Imprint was scarce...
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>>jm
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>>Thu May 16, 2013 5:04 am (PDT) . Posted by:
>>"Edgar Owen" edgarowen
>>Bill,
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>>You should really read and understand Dogen for a
change.
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>>He's saying what I say that you condemn, e.g. "It
is an illusion to try to carry out our practice
and enlightenment through ourselves, but to have
practice and enlightenment through phenomena, that
is enlightenment.
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>>Edgar
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