Merle,
Try understanding what I'm saying before commenting on it... You always seem to
get it wrong no matter how many times I repeat it...
Edgar
On May 19, 2013, at 4:06 AM, Merle Lester wrote:
>
>
> edgar...... illogical to you is not rational mind..so how can you say JMJM
> agrees with you?...your mantra is rational mind...merle
>
>
> Hi Edgar,
> There is Chan in everything, form as well as formless,
> logical and illogical,
>
>
>
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>
>
> On 5/18/2013 12:33 PM, Edgar Owen wrote:
>
>
>> JMJM
>>
>>
>> Hi and welcome back. I've missed your contributions to the group.
>>
>>
>> JMJM is the only actually practicing Zen teacher on the group. Those who
>> disagree with me and claim I don't understand and misrepresent Zen should
>> take note that JMJM agrees with me and says that what I've been saying is in
>> accord with Zen teaching....
>>
>>
>> Edgar
>>
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>> On May 18, 2013, at 10:39 AM, 覺妙精明 （JMJM） wrote:
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>>> Yes, Edgar is right.
>>>
>>> The platform sutra said, "Buddha dharma is in
> the secular world. Enlightenment to Buddhahood
> occurs in every day life."
>>>
>>> In other words, only if we live in harmony with
> everyone and everything, seeing the truth in
> everything and everyone, then we are
> enlightened. If we continue to pick or choose,
> then our ego is in play. Thus Chan is ALL and
> ONE at the same time.
>>>
>>> Of course, the other factor is whether the
> master your agree to is enlightened or not. If
> he is not enlighten, then he is just playing
> with your mind and not your heart.
>>>
>>> After all, the only thing matters is heart to
> heart transmission. For a few hundred years,
> Buddha Heart Imprint was scarce...
>>>
>>> jm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thu May 16, 2013 5:04 am (PDT) . Posted by:
>>> "Edgar Owen" edgarowen
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> You should really read and understand Dogen for a
> change.
>>>
>>> He's saying what I say that you condemn, e.g. "It
> is an illusion to try to carry out our practice
> and enlightenment through ourselves, but to have
> practice and enlightenment through phenomena, that
> is enlightenment.
>>> "
>>>
>>> Edgar
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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