I welcome JMJM back also. I didn't comment on his previous post because I wasn't sure what he was agreeing on Edgar with. What I read from him was:
"The platform sutra said, "Buddha dharma is in the secular world. Enlightenment to Buddhahood occurs in every day life." In other words, only if we live in harmony with everyone and everything, seeing the truth in everything and everyone, then we are enlightened. If we continue to pick or choose, then our ego is in play. Thus Chan is ALL and ONE at the same time." I've not seen anyone say anything differently than this here so I don't know why he singled out Edgar to agree with... ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > JMJM > > Hi and welcome back. I've missed your contributions to the group. > > JMJM is the only actually practicing Zen teacher on the group. Those who > disagree with me and claim I don't understand and misrepresent Zen should > take note that JMJM agrees with me and says that what I've been saying is in > accord with Zen teaching.... > > Edgar > > > > On May 18, 2013, at 10:39 AM, 覺å¦ç²¾æ ï¼JMJMï¼ wrote: > > > Yes, Edgar is right. > > > > The platform sutra said, "Buddha dharma is in the secular world. > > Enlightenment to Buddhahood occurs in every day life." > > > > In other words, only if we live in harmony with everyone and everything, > > seeing the truth in everything and everyone, then we are enlightened. If > > we continue to pick or choose, then our ego is in play. Thus Chan is ALL > > and ONE at the same time. > > > > Of course, the other factor is whether the master your agree to is > > enlightened or not. If he is not enlighten, then he is just playing with > > your mind and not your heart. > > > > After all, the only thing matters is heart to heart transmission. For a > > few hundred years, Buddha Heart Imprint was scarce... > > > > jm > > > > > > > > Thu May 16, 2013 5:04 am (PDT) . Posted by: > > > > "Edgar Owen" edgarowen > > > > > > Bill, > > > > You should really read and understand Dogen for a change. > > > > He's saying what I say that you condemn, e.g. "It is an illusion to try to > > carry out our practice and enlightenment through ourselves, but to have > > practice and enlightenment through phenomena, that is enlightenment. > > " > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
