Mike,
Did I fail to put in some smile-face emoticons? ;-)
I must have forgotten.
You missed my irony, or I did not stress it. Or, I missed yours!
In fact, I was going about making a very serious point, and one that I think
Edgar would agree with.
If, by (our) effective practice, duality disappears for us in our experience,
it is far from GONE from the world (of "others", who are yet bewitched with it
and by it). As you know, when one continues practicing, after, say awakening,
one undergoes a polishing, or sand-blasting, process, over years of time (a
lifetime) and develops skilful means for almost any circumstance, just by
working-out the proper muscles and keeping the proper ligaments flexible (NOT
by training for specific, rehearsed cases).
Well... bottom-line... we slough off the flaked paint chips of duality from
our own hands and arms, but they are still adhering like unbroken skin to
others.
It's best not to forget!
--Joe
PS Unlike what you wrote in your post, I would say something like: Opposites
are not "transcended" in Buddha Nature. I do not know what "transcended" would
mean. Buddha Nature has nothing going-on, except via specific forms. Buddha
Nature takes in all forms. Some of these look like opposites to one who is not
awake. That is all.
> uerusuboyo@... wrote:
>
> Joe,
I dare to in the same way you dare to question my mentioning it! ; ) I'm
hardly saying anything revolutionary, subversive or heretical. Don't we
practice koans if not to resolve contradictions and paradoxes in a flash of
satori?
> desert_woodworker wrote:
> Mike,
> Now, now. How dare you ask such a deflating question.
> There (!) goes the UNIVERSE! Into a flat pancake. And much flatter > than we
> can comprehend. Mystery flatness. Gone, gone.
> But not the Parasamgate of the Heart Sutra.
> Seeing that, I feel better. And forgiving. Long life, ;-)
--Joe
> uerusuboyo@... wrote:
>
> Bill!, Sometimes it seems as though you and Edgar are arguing from polar
> opposites on what emptiness and form are, yet aren't opposites transcended in
> Buddha Nature, along with all contradictions and paradoxes?
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