Merle,
If you are asking about the general "you", then here is the procedure:
you consult your teacher, or a teacher.
A teacher knows all the signs, and cannot be fooled. A teacher can also tell
you how to proceed, to deepen and "take care" of your realization. It is a
long-term process.
A Zen or Zen Buddhist teacher *MUST* check your Zen realization. If you have
only yourself as your lawyer, then you have a fool for a client.
There is no "pinnacle"; there is the basement. The wine-cellar.
Again, it's not heights: it's spelunking.
Best,
--Joe
> Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>
> joe..question : how do you absolutely... for sure know you reached the
>pinnacle of awakening?
>
> you might have reached a certain point..however need to go further and deeper
> and longer...
>
> merle
>
>
> Merle,
>
> quoting:
> "question:...what is the difference between zen and atheism?"
>
> Atheism does not exist; Zen does.
>
> quoting:
> "is enlightenment merely an illusion? or perhaps even a delusion?"
>
> Not to those who have experienced it. But they must continue to practice in
> order to remain awake, and for their behavior to continue to be
> "enlightened". Else, awakening becomes just a memory.
>
> --Joe
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