mike..i am not attacking... i am questioning..nothing is set in stone... zen
for me is freedom... for you?..merle
Merle!!
I know very little about Christianity, but even I've heard that there is very
little known about his life from the age of 12 to when he entered Jerusalem.
The Silk Route was a well travelled journey by many at that time is there is
reasonable speculation he 'may' have gone (Remember - Joe only said that others
claim this).
Also, here you go again attacking key Zen terms that are not disputed in these
circles. 'No mind' ('mushin' in Japanese) is a well know idea and central to
the Zen/Buddhist experience. That's now 3 of the pillars of Buddhism that
you've raged against (cause and effect; no soul; and the illusion of mind).
What exactly does Zen mean to you?
Mike
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From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>;
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>;
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: question time
Sent: Sat, Jun 8, 2013 8:49:02 AM
joe..rubbish he went to india... he was 36 was he not when he was crucified?..
you should know all his life story as you were once a catholic..
what the hell do you mean by no mind?..no mind then you would be brain dead...
it's not reinventing the wheel..
it's evolution... who wants to follow who wants to lead?..merle
Merle,
We don't know which teachers or how many teachers Jesus had.
Some claim he'd been to India (and back).
We also don't really know what his state of mind was: had he stopped at "One
Mind"?, or had he gone further, to "No Mind" (Zen Mind)? We don't know.
Scriptures also are divergent about what they claim of him. The gospels were
also written rather long after Jesus' death, and not by people who knew him, I
think. Paul wrote
some 85 years after Jesus died, for example.
Talk to me/us more about Zen people and their enlightenment; we can be more
clear and more sure of those cases, and those biographies. The Zen Buddhist
tradition carries a reliable body of teaching and methods for awakening and its
maintenance. It is not all rolling the dice, taking shots in the dark, and
reinventing the wheel. That's why it's called a tradition.
I think Jesus was taught by the Essenes. And maybe in India.
--Joe
> Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>
> joe..well thank christ for that!..hey joe..how come christ he was
>enlightened..we all agree..he had no teacher...merle
>
> Merle,
>
> If it is the pit, there are no vipers there.
>
> --Joe
>
> > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> >
> > dear joe..i like the basement ..i like the wine cellar however can it be
> > called the pit?... merle
