Edgar,
If YOU take things literally, then that's what YOU do.
Anyone who passes the koan "What is the sound of One Hand?", makes a
demonstration. It's easy, at that time. After that work. What are you all
hung up about?
Edgar, note, too: my practice has been not too much on koans; after a few, my
teacher saw the road ahead for me, and that was not koans. Either, "no need",
or "no aptitude".
>From my point of view, after a point, it was:
"No need for gumdrops along the way".
Yet, all Hail! for folks who go on this way longer that I did.
I took my Doctor's prescription and switched modalities.
Hail!
I'm lucky to have had such a teacher. May you be lucky in this way, in some
life.
--Joe
> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> Joe,
>
> The point of my reply to your post both of which you obsessively snipped is
> this
>
> Your post went against even the view of koans you are supposed to believe in
> as an orthodox zennist.
>
> You and Bill claim that koans have no solution but are to be discarded in a
> satori.
>
> But instead your post claimed that you not only understood the sound of one
> hand but could produce it yourself.
>
> Thus you don't even understand the naive view of koans Bill does...
>
> You are not supposed to take the koan to heart as if it actually expressed
> something but to discard it...
>
> Even Bill knows that...
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