Thanks Merle, that's just the point I was trying to make. Thanks, --Chris 301-270-6524 On Jun 17, 2013 4:13 PM, "Merle Lester" <merlewiit...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > chris...i checked the websites..there is so much there out on net..every > tom dick and jennifer think they have the answers to the meaning of life... > there so many "i can help you types"..one could get totally > bamboozled...it is the age of the self help books as well... > all seems to be in crisis..the age of seek happiness...seek seek > seek...when in reality it is really as bill so often say experience and > edgar says reality reality...i > t's really about acceptance as it is...you can only change what can be > changed and accept what cannot...and try to make the best of things... > this trivialisation of the "meaning of life"...well only a trivial mind > will create trivia... if that satisfies that mind what can you do?.. > it's a bit like being satisfied with cheap fast food not slow cooking.. > nothing trivial about "singing in the rain"..especially after a long > heartbreaking drought... > all can be put into perspective...... > merle > > > I wasn't really referring to the case when people with a lot of aware > experiences of buddha nature trivialize it - that seems like a non-problem > to me. > I was referring to the tendency of [my, i.e. US] culture to trivialize > everything, especially stuff from other traditions, e.g. > http://zeninamoment.com/ or http://www.kenwilber.com/blog/list/1 > http://bigmind.org/genpo-roshi > People want to think that there is some simple fix that they can acquire, > rather than that there is no problem, and nothing to fix but their own > tendencies to blindness, irritation and wanting stuff, which is extremely > non-trivial to lay down, and that the process of laying down these > tendencies is so profoundly satisfying that one can't find it trivial; it > is as trivial as singing in the rain while feeling happy. > In my experience, people in the US are apt to paper over the most profound > moments with silly thin ideas, turning away from the suchness we have a > chance to share in and turning towards some paper-thing abstraction. > Do I think that substituting "seeing God" or "seeing the face of God" > might help someone understand "Just This!" or "experience Buddha nature"? > I find it likely enough to be worth discussing. > > --Chris > Thanks, > --Chris > 301-270-6524 > On Jun 16, 2013 1:47 PM, "Joe" <desert_woodwor...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Chris, thank you taking the care to translate. All copied. ;-) > > "Silly thin ideas"? Are those thumb-pressed keys really making OK contact? > > Is there anyone here new to Zen who you will help? I hope so. > > Happy Day, > > --Joe > > > Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote: > > > > I reread my paragraph and the garbled bit is "so then I am not really > > addressing you" rather than "do then I am really addressing you." > > > > I am not addressing you because you seem to have some idea of one mind is > > God seeing and no mind is superior. > > > > I am trying to make a point about using rhe language "to meet God" > instead > > of "experience Buddha nature" so that Westerners new to Zen will not > > mistake silly thin ideas for experiencing Buddha nature. > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
