Chris,

Something's garbled in that reply's 2nd paragraph, Chris.  I don't know if I 
can pull it out.  Maybe try a full-sized keybd.?

As far as trivializing Buddha Nature goes, even to do so in speech one or two 
times may not ruin a person's career in Zen practice: we live a long life.  
Once it is experienced, there is no trivializing that would come to mind.  And 
since Zen is not the Teaching School, one need not, as a teacher, say much, or 
anything, about Buddha Nature, Nirmanakaya, etc.  In Dokusan is another story, 
perhaps.

--Joe

> Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote:
>
> I think we can find people on this very listserv that trivialize Buddha
> nature, making it a picture of itself rather.
> 
> And you seem resolute in keeping rhe meanings you assign to words and to
> change the topic to that rather than working for communication about the
> meanings I was explaining for the words, do then I am really addressing
> you.  If you wish to have some discussion about one mind, fine, but I am
> interested in discussion the parallels between experiencing Buddha nature
> and meeting God.  In order to convey to Westerner's that this experience is
> not some small point.




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