I think we can find people on this very listserv that trivialize Buddha nature, making it a picture of itself rather.
And you seem resolute in keeping rhe meanings you assign to words and to change the topic to that rather than working for communication about the meanings I was explaining for the words, do then I am really addressing you. If you wish to have some discussion about one mind, fine, but I am interested in discussion the parallels between experiencing Buddha nature and meeting God. In order to convey to Westerner's that this experience is not some small point. Thanks, --Chris 301-270-6524 On Jun 16, 2013 10:21 AM, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote: > Chris, > > That's interesting. Probably only in the recent book of his I've heard > you name does he do that(?). > > Not everybody in the West who comes to Zen practice is going to be > thrilled by talk of "God", in any connection. But they can just avoid > buying his book. ;-) > > I've never heard of anyone trivializing "Buddha Nature". If anything, > they trivialize "God": and that's why they've left the religion of their > father (or mother, if they are Jewish). > > Having not attained One-Mind (most Christians and Jews and Muslims are not > mystical practitioners, unfortunately), they don't have the experience of > God, and carry only the cultural transmission of a God-influence in family, > society, and History, and through worship gatherings. > > Experience of No-Mind, Buddha Mind, Buddha Nature, Zen-Mind, Nirmanakaya, > etc., names for the same experience, does not cause one to de-value the > experience of others who met God, and lived in One-Mind state for a while, > or live as such now, but it certainly dissuades us from staying there, at > One-Mind. > > Not that it's a bad state. It's just that, once you have lived with > Zen-Mind, you know One-Mind for what it is. Again, it's not bad, though. > But it does not bewitch you, and cannot: One just keeps practicing. > > A happy Father's Day to you, Old Man! > > --Joe > > > Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote: > > > > That is pretty much what Sensei Warner is calling the experience of > meeting > > God. Only afterwards, of course, not during. He favors this word over > the > > Buddha nature word for Westerners who have a tendency to trivialize Budda > > nature. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
