chris...i checked the websites..there is so much there out on net..every tom dick and jennifer think they have the answers to the meaning of life... there so many "i can help you types"..one could get totally bamboozled...it is the age of the self help books as well... all seems to be in crisis..the age of seek happiness...seek seek seek...when in reality it is really as bill so often say experience and edgar says reality reality...i t's really about acceptance as it is...you can only change what can be changed and accept what cannot...and try to make the best of things... this trivialisation of the "meaning of life"...well only a trivial mind will create trivia... if that satisfies that mind what can you do?.. it's a bit like being satisfied with cheap fast food not slow cooking.. nothing trivial about "singing in the rain"..especially after a long heartbreaking drought... all can be put into perspective...... merle
I wasn't really referring to the case when people with a lot of aware experiences of buddha nature trivialize it - that seems like a non-problem to me. I was referring to the tendency of [my, i.e. US] culture to trivialize everything, especially stuff from other traditions, e.g. http://zeninamoment.com/ or http://www.kenwilber.com/blog/list/1 http://bigmind.org/genpo-roshi People want to think that there is some simple fix that they can acquire, rather than that there is no problem, and nothing to fix but their own tendencies to blindness, irritation and wanting stuff, which is extremely non-trivial to lay down, and that the process of laying down these tendencies is so profoundly satisfying that one can't find it trivial; it is as trivial as singing in the rain while feeling happy. In my experience, people in the US are apt to paper over the most profound moments with silly thin ideas, turning away from the suchness we have a chance to share in and turning towards some paper-thing abstraction. Do I think that substituting "seeing God" or "seeing the face of God" might help someone understand "Just This!" or "experience Buddha nature"? I find it likely enough to be worth discussing. --Chris Thanks, --Chris 301-270-6524 On Jun 16, 2013 1:47 PM, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote: Chris, thank you taking the care to translate. All copied. ;-) > >"Silly thin ideas"? Are those thumb-pressed keys really making OK contact? > >Is there anyone here new to Zen who you will help? I hope so. > >Happy Day, > >--Joe > >> Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote: >> >> I reread my paragraph and the garbled bit is "so then I am not really >> addressing you" rather than "do then I am really addressing you." >> >> I am not addressing you because you seem to have some idea of one mind is >> God seeing and no mind is superior. >> >> I am trying to make a point about using rhe language "to meet God" instead >> of "experience Buddha nature" so that Westerners new to Zen will not >> mistake silly thin ideas for experiencing Buddha nature. > > > > >------------------------------------ > >Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are >reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
