Merle, It could be worse...they could be offering for sale their live mother's fingernails... :>(
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > >  bill!..yes anything to make a quid!... i have a saying: those same folk > would sell their dead mother's fingernails !..merle > > >  > Merle, > > ...and as you and Chris noted in an early post they've already started > selling Buddha Nature and enlightenment... > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > àexcellent bill....à> > > > never dreamt of the day in australia when they would sell water..now it is > > so...and next will be air...and bottled sunshine..merle > > à> > Chris, Merle, Joe, et al... > > > > Could you get anymore trivial and any more true than the saying which is > > also the title of a book: "selling water by the river"? > > > > What is more trivial than water? What is more precious than water? > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâàyes chris..you are on the correct path to this trivial...i think > > > edgar calls it comic book zen...merle > > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > http://www.thesatoriteacompany.com/ > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IK735YHVtA > > > > > > > > > http://zenhabits.net/ > > > > > > > > > I believe you must simply be failing to understand my words here. > > > ÃâàYou've never seen US culture trivialize zen?Ãâà> > > > > > > > > > > > http://cherrycrime26.hubpages.com/hub/Meditation-Techniques-To-Manifest-Money > > > > > > > > > http://www.zenprofits.com/ > > > > > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Soul-Centered-Transform-Your-Weeks-Meditation/dp/1401935869 > > > > > > > > > Oh well,Ãâà> > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > --Chris > > > chris@ > > > +1-301-270-6524 > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Joe <desert_woodworker@> wrote: > > > > > > Chris, > > > > > > > >I never heard such stuff. ÃâàDunno where you may be coming from. > > > > > > > >It may be just a geographic or cultural proclivity, or merely and > > > >importantly personal. > > > > > > > >I hope you and your chosen teacher will take these things up, if they > > > >are important in (Zen) practice. > > > > > > > >Best, > > > > > > > > > > > >--Joe > > > > > > > >> Chris Austin-Lane <chris@> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> I wasn't really referring to the case when people with a lot of aware > > > >> experiences of buddha nature trivialize it - that seems like a > > > >> non-problem > > > >> to me. > > > >> > > > >> I was referring to the tendency of [my, i.e. US] culture to trivialize > > > >> everything, especially stuff from other traditions, e.g. > > > >> http://zeninamoment.com/ Ãâàor > > > >> http://www.kenwilber.com/blog/list/1 > > > >> http://bigmind.org/genpo-roshi > > > >> > > > >> People want to think that there is some simple fix that they can > > > >> acquire, > > > >> rather than that there is no problem, and nothing to fix but their own > > > >> tendencies to blindness, irritation and wanting stuff, which is > > > >> extremely > > > >> non-trivial to lay down, and that the process of laying down these > > > >> tendencies is so profoundly satisfying that one can't find it trivial; > > > >> it > > > >> is as trivial as singing in the rain while feeling happy. > > > >> > > > >> In my experience, people in the US are apt to paper over the most > > > >> profound > > > >> moments with silly thin ideas, turning away from the suchness we have a > > > >> chance to share in and turning towards some paper-thing abstraction. > > > >> > > > >> Do I think that substituting "seeing God" or "seeing the face of God" > > > >> might > > > >> help someone understand "Just This!" or "experience Buddha nature"? > > > >> ÃâàI find > > > >> it likely enough to be worth discussing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > > > >Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > > > >reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
