bill!..yes anything to make a quid!... i have a saying: those same folk would 
sell their dead mother's fingernails !..merle


  
Merle,

...and as you and Chris noted in an early post they've already started selling 
Buddha Nature and enlightenment...

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
>  excellent bill.... 
> 
> never dreamt of the day in australia when they would sell water..now it is 
> so...and next will be air...and bottled sunshine..merle
>   
> Chris, Merle, Joe, et al...
> 
> Could you get anymore trivial and any more true than the saying which is also 
> the title of a book: "selling water by the river"?
> 
> What is more trivial than water?  What is more precious than water?
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> >  yes chris..you are on the correct path to this trivial...i think edgar 
> > calls it comic book zen...merle
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > http://www.thesatoriteacompany.com/
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IK735YHVtA
> > 
> > 
> > http://zenhabits.net/
> > 
> > 
> > I believe you must simply be failing to understand my words here.  
> > You've never seen US culture trivialize zen? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://cherrycrime26.hubpages.com/hub/Meditation-Techniques-To-Manifest-Money
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.zenprofits.com/
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.amazon.com/Soul-Centered-Transform-Your-Weeks-Meditation/dp/1401935869
> > 
> > 
> > Oh well, 
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > --Chris
> > chris@
> > +1-301-270-6524
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Joe <desert_woodworker@> wrote:
> > 
> > Chris,
> > >
> > >I never heard such stuff.  Dunno where you may be coming from.
> > >
> > >It may be just a geographic or cultural proclivity, or merely and 
> > >importantly personal.
> > >
> > >I hope you and your chosen teacher will take these things up, if they are 
> > >important in (Zen) practice.
> > >
> > >Best,
> > >
> > >
> > >--Joe
> > >
> > >> Chris Austin-Lane <chris@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >
> > >> I wasn't really referring to the case when people with a lot of aware
> > >> experiences of buddha nature trivialize it - that seems like a 
> > >> non-problem
> > >> to me.
> > >>
> > >> I was referring to the tendency of [my, i.e. US] culture to trivialize
> > >> everything, especially stuff from other traditions, e.g.
> > >> http://zeninamoment.com/  or http://www.kenwilber.com/blog/list/1
> > >> http://bigmind.org/genpo-roshi
> > >>
> > >> People want to think that there is some simple fix that they can acquire,
> > >> rather than that there is no problem, and nothing to fix but their own
> > >> tendencies to blindness, irritation and wanting stuff, which is extremely
> > >> non-trivial to lay down, and that the process of laying down these
> > >> tendencies is so profoundly satisfying that one can't find it trivial; it
> > >> is as trivial as singing in the rain while feeling happy.
> > >>
> > >> In my experience, people in the US are apt to paper over the most 
> > >> profound
> > >> moments with silly thin ideas, turning away from the suchness we have a
> > >> chance to share in and turning towards some paper-thing abstraction.
> > >>
> > >> Do I think that substituting "seeing God" or "seeing the face of God" 
> > >> might
> > >> help someone understand "Just This!" or "experience Buddha nature"?  
> > >> I find
> > >> it likely enough to be worth discussing.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >------------------------------------
> > >
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> > >reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>


 

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