I am often charged with having no sense of humor, indeed and in person.  A
defensive posture adopted for often being puzzled by human interaction.

I will try to act from a stance that all here have good will.  I myself am
about to pack up my zafu for a trip back to my family of origin, to share a
week at the edge of the Atlantic Ocean and welcome my new niece.  I will
probably have even more time to write here than normally.

May these bits find all of us well, free of suffering and well in our
body/minds and our interrelating.

http://www.zensoaps.com

Love,  Chris

Thanks,
--Chris
301-270-6524
 On Jun 18, 2013 6:57 PM, "Bill!" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Merle, Chris and Joe...
>
> Chris' post was well thought out.  His posts usually are, even the ones I
> disagree with.  In this one I especially liked his observation that
> especially on this site "Everyone that writes here has I think missed the
> mark from time to time."
>
> I do think however a good deal of Chris' discomfort with Joe's posts are
> more of style than substance.  Joe uses humor, which sometimes leads to
> quips and sarcasm.  Some people take those more personally and harshly than
> others.  Chris' style is pretty much straight-up and more consistently
> serious.  Merle's style seems to be completely spontaneous and somewhat
> quirky at times.  Edgar?  Well, Edgar is just Edgar.
>
> Anyway I don't think anybody here is trying to hurt anyone's feelings or
> purposely trying to offend.  There is sometimes jabs here and there (I
> certainly jab sometimes), but I assume that's just to get someone's
> attention or emphasis a point.
>
> Those are my thoughts on this...Bill!
>
>
>
>
> --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Â a comforting well thought out post chris...merle
> >
> >
> > Â
> > I think the inescapable meanness in your words here show very well that
> there is no permanent essence attached to persons or to awakening.
> Sometimes Merle's words show she gets it, at that time.  Sometimes your
> words show that.  Everyone that writes here has I think missed the mark
> from time to time.  That’s a good lesson-we aren't really separate from
> one another and sometimes we join the dance eyes open and sometimes eyes
> closed, so our partners make way for us.  I respect your long history of
> practise and achievement,  but with language like "every" and "compared"
> and "more advanced" I think you show us that no amount of practise is
> enough.Â
> > You may hold to an essential difference between yourself and Merle and I
> as less advanced, but today I do not see that dividing line.
> > Thanks,
> > --Chris
> > 301-270-6524
> >
> > On Jun 17, 2013 6:42 PM, "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote:
> >
> > Chris,
> > >
> > >I've seen Merle trivialize it, in every post. Â Hi, Cous'! Â Luv ya.
> > >
> > >Compared to / with her posts, Americans are more advanced in practice
> than you and me.
> > >
> > >Trivialize? Â I'm an old man, C. Â This goes / has gone with the
> territory. Â But, find yourself in a community of practitioners, and you
> will find critical mass.
> > >
> > >Looky-here, C.: there's Zen; and, there's hooey. Â I think it's always
> been so. Â When it comes to Zen... only a Practitioner, well, "knows". Â We
> forgive all trivializations. Â How could anyone else know? Â We know that
> practice is necessary. Â And we try to extend our appreciation of our
> practice to others. Â But do not proselytize.
> > >
> > >This is why I teach. Â To the extent that I do. Â Since 1980.
> > >
> > >I don't forgive my (your) culture; and, I don't indict it. Â It takes
> "a Certain Maturity", to take up our Practice. Â You won't find it online.
> Â Usually. Â Rare exceptions. Â Bill!, and me; Â Mike; and you. Â Maybe
> some lurkers. Â And Mr. Zendervish, here, certainly. Â Kudos, and hail!,
> all non-fuddlers!
> > >
> > >--Joe
> > >
> > >> Chris Austin-Lane <chris@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.thesatoriteacompany.com/
> > >>
> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IK735YHVtA
> > >>
> > >> http://zenhabits.net/
> > >>
> > >> I believe you must simply be failing to understand my words here.
> Â You've
> > >> never seen US culture trivialize zen?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >------------------------------------
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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>
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