all is  as it is...
mountain and every shoot of grass are as they are..
all play a significant role in realisation..
one is no more important than the other
 however the mountain has an aspect to it that once one is familiar with shoots 
of grasses and mountains as "teaching tools" for zen
 then the realisation
falls into place swiftly
 merle
  
Bill and Mike,

There IS no mountain that needs to be climbed!

Reality is in every grass shoot at the bottom of the mountain and everywhere 
else. Just open your eyes and look around wherever you are and you've got Zen!

Climbing the mountain is comic book Zen...

Edgar




On Jul 3, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Bill! wrote:

  
>Mike,
>
>I again like your analogy.
>
>The only thing is I don't see many people at the 'top' who follow the long and 
>winding Buddhist path.  IMO they get hung-up along the way, stopping here and 
>there at roadside rest areas, getting comfortable  and thinking they are at 
>the summit.
>
>I'd also equate zen not so much as a "steep cliff-face" that you have to climb 
>with a great effort, but a Star Trek-like transporter.  One second you're at 
>the bottom of the mountain and the next you're on top.
>
>The paragraph above was to follow your analogy.
>
>I really see zen as just 'blowing away of a fog' that allows you to enjoy the 
>vista from where you are, and realize that where you are is just as good, and 
>even no different than the top or anywhere else on the mountain. 
>
>...Bill!
>
>--- In [email protected], uerusuboyo@... wrote:
>>
>> Bill!,<br/><br/>It's just two sides of the same coin. Zen just gets you to 
>> awaken with very little explanation and instruction - The sutras explain the 
>> processes of the mind that create a self and suffering and the steps 
>> necessary to awaken and be liberated. Both work. Zen is a steep cliff-face 
>> that can get you to the top quickly, but you'll see few at the top. 
>> 'Buddhism' is a less steep and longer winding route that takes longer to 
>> reach the summit, but is more accessible and will see more people reach the 
>> top.<br/><br/>Mike<br/><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>>
>
>

 

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