Joe,

Laughable that you call Einstein's view of reality "naive" as compared to your 
own when he was responsible for one of the two greatest advances in 
understanding reality of the 20th century...

Go figure.

I'd wager that at least 99.999% of intelligent people would agree his 
realization of reality was superior to yours...

But of course I know you consider intelligence a handicap so it's worthless to 
argue the obvious.....

Edgar



On Jul 18, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Joe wrote:

> Edgar,
> 
> Einstein may have been a pretty effective one-trick-pony hard scientist, but 
> he did not have the Awakened Eye: he had never practiced. He was born 50 
> years too soon to have had the opportunity.
> 
> This explains why he uses naive Realist and Dualist language.
> 
> No fault of his own! And in fact, he actually exemplifies the Naive Realist 
> perspective and expression just *PERFECTLY*, in a beautifully quaint 
> Nineteenth Century sort of way. Kudos! (or, "Good on him!", Merle might say).
> 
> But let's read Bill!'s reply. I just had to jump in and compliment the 
> Relativist on his perfect and probably unparalleled exemplification and 
> advocacy of Naive Realism: it probably surpasses even your own.
> 
> --Joe
> 
> PS See the teachings of the "Mind-Only" School, a.k.a., Yogacara. It only 
> died out in India because of the Muslim Conquests. It did not die out 
> elsewhere. Ch'an and Zen have incorporated it, along with Madhyamika. The 
> Consciousness-(Mind-) Only School is an entire philosophical system with no 
> naive establishment of a belief in a physical world.
> 
> > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> > 
> > Funny! Einstein clearly states that he agrees with me and Buddha there is a 
> > real external world completely independent of Bill's imagination...
> > 
> > This quote disagrees with Bill's core belief so why does Bill post it?
> 
> 

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