bill...i see...so if one is in pain..this is an illusion..try telling that to someone bowled over and in agony...merle
Merle, I also want to add that experiencing Buddha Nature, such as through zazen, does not involve a disconnection with the body. It involves a disconnection with the illusion of self and all dualism. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > Merle, > > No, the body is not a restraint. It is a gateway - at least as far as zen is > concerned. The body, or at least its ability to afford awareness of reality, > is the necessary component of Buddha Nature for not only humans but all > beings as we know them. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > i know this is a little crazy..however here i go.. > > > > the human body..can we exist without it?...we do when we are in cyber > > space.... although we need the body to get the messages out there...mm that > > has me stumped! > > > > would this body less be liken to the meditation state that can be achieved > > once one has surpassed the breath counting saga? > > > > i have belief that monks can practise a form of meditation whereby the can > > slow the whole body/ mind totally down to an almost non existent state > > > > in all the many previous post there has been much focus on slowing the mind > > down..however the body..does it have a mind of it's own so to speak? > > > > after all there are millions of tiny organisms..rummaging in the body that > > we do not have any control over what so ever... > > > > (meditate as long and hard as you want, they do their own thing > > regardless)... > > > > a whole eco system...one could say a universe lies in the gut > > > > my zen question is thus: to be totally free ..the human body is it a > > restraint? > > > > merle > > > > > > > > Merle > > www.wix.com/merlewiitpom/1 > > >
