Bill,

o.k.
I at first will investigate before i write ove rmy experiences.

aham

--- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
>
> Aham,
> 
> IMO zen is a set of teachings that first enable you to experience Buddha 
> Nature ("to see things as they really are" in Vipassana-speak) and then to 
> incorporate that experience into your daily life.
> 
> These teachings usually do employ a meditation technique - zazen - which in 
> Japanese means 'sit zen'.  Although there are many beginning techniques used 
> to learn to do zazen and the most popular does involve using the breath as 
> does Vipassana; but all zen techniques (zazen, koan study, chanting, bowing, 
> etc...) are all geared to bring you eventually to a meditative state called 
> 'shikantaza' which means 'just sit' or 'only sit' in Japanese.  It is the 
> same (I believe) as what the Buddhist Sutras refer to as 'samadhi'.  It is in 
> this state that you may experience Buddha Nature ("see things as they really 
> are").
> 
> From what little I know about Vipassana there are a lot of similarities with 
> zen, and of course there should be if they are both taking you to the same 
> place.
> 
> There are participants in this forum that know more about Vipassana than I, 
> and also participants that probably have a different opinion of what zen is 
> than I've just wrote out.
> 
> I hope you'll hear from them.
> 
> Welcome to the Zen Forum...
> 
> ...Bill!




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