meaning what? MIKE.... maybe just maybe you have not even arrived?... filled with preconceived ideas and prejudices... ..dust yourself off and try using the refresh on keyboard...
merle Don't worry, Merle. It's not a completion - you'll catch up one day. Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad ________________________________ interesting bill..your streaks ahead in consciousness..merle Mike, No and Yes... The "no" part is that I experienced Buddha Nature on my own before encountering zen. I'm sure we all have. When we were infants before our intellect was developed enough to create the delusion of duality/plurality I believe we were experiencing Buddha Nature. Also, even later, when we became completely absorbed in something, like sports or art or nature, we also may have experienced Buddha Nature. In my case however I just did not know what it was and its significance. The "yes" part is that it was first reading about zen (Alan Watts) and then formal Zen Buddhist training (Japanese Rinzai and Soto schools) that enabled me to rediscover Buddha Nature, learn to purposely experience it, appreciate its significance and begin to integrate it more fully into my daily life. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, uerusuboyo@... wrote: > > Bill!,<br/><br/>Would you agree that you probably would never have > experienced 'zen' without Siddharta Gotama's enlightenment and the spreading > of the sutras? I agree that experiencing Buddha Nature is not intrinsically > dependent on them, but it may as well be. Without Buddha's rediscovering of > Buddha Nature we'd probably still be believing in souls and the reality of an > ego. <br/><br/>Mike<br/><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad >