Re: [Zen] Goats vs. Sheep

[Kathleen Knight]

Thus making clear to all of us why Buddha told us to question all teacher, including himself.  He, like all of us, was susceptible to a mind conditioned by the society in which he lived <waiting for thunderbolt to strike me here>.  Can you give any other rational explanation for such arbitrary distinctions? Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: Sebastian Ortiz Duran Gochicoa To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:34 PM Subject: RE: [Zen] Goats vs. Sheep Dear Al,   I never said I hated women. I love women. As you say, they are Creators, Goddess. Mothers. I disagree with FEMINISM.   As Jusan pointed out: Main Entry: fem�i�nism  1 : the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes   Feminism hasn�t always existed. If hating feminism slowly leads to loving farm animals then the human race would today be extinct or maybe we�d all have raccoon tails. Feminism is a �theory� of equality of sexes that began in the 19th century.   Buddha himself established the Order for Bhikkhus for Boys and the Bhikkhuni Order for Girls five years later. Here were some rules for the ladies: Bhikkhus were always to have precedence over Bhikkhunis in matters of salutation, etc. irrespective of any other consideration. Bhikkhunis could not observe the annual retreat (vassa) in a district where there were no Bhikkhus. Bhikkhus had to set the dates for Bhikkhuni Uposatha ceremonies. Confessing  transgressions by Bhikkhnis had to done before the assembly of both Bhikkhus and Bhikkhunis. Certain judicial processes in case of Bhikkhunis had to be undertaken by both the Sanghas. Upasampad� initiation of Bhikkhunis should be given by the Bhikkhu sangha as well. A Bhikkhuni should never abuse a Bhikkhu. Bhikkhus can officially admonish Bhikkhunis, but not vice versa �Soon after, you are taking trips into the woods looking for goats, sheep, deer, rabbits. �   Do you think this was Buddha�s intention?       -----Mensaje original----- De: AC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: 23/09/2004 11:58 a.m. Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]hoogroups.com Asunto: Re: [Zen] Goats vs. Sheep     From: Sebastian Ortiz Duran Gochicoa . However, hating feminism = loving farm animals is kind of a reach. >>   Remember, Woman is the Goddess and Creator. Any equation in your brain that does not recognize the supreme importance of the gender that nurtured you in her womb is leading you down the wrong path.   Think about it. One day you turn down a date with an aggressive lady. The next time you are making love to your Rosie Palm. A few months later you are buying Blow-Up Dolls. Soon after, you are taking trips into the woods looking for goats, sheep, deer, rabbits.   It is a slippery slope, and it begins when you have an inflexible attitude relating to women. Stop now! Change your ways before it is too late! Worship the female. The concept that the more love you give the more love you will receive is very true. Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right  Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right  Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 9/10/2004 Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right  Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.