Replying to my own post -- I see Fudo answered Alex well. My case is disassembling the camera slowly, rather than suddenly... slow or sudden is not important.
Rod Scholl -----Original Message----- From: Rod Scholl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 11:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Zen] Illustrating the awakening Damn, Alex. This would actually hurt me :) I have been experiementing with the 3-D depth perception change with cross-eyes (actually it is ucnrossing them, making their site more parallel, yet focusing the lenses for the correct distance) on repeating patterns since I was a kid. I used to stare at fences and overlap the images at discrete intervals. The results was that those eye puzzles took about 10 seconds my first time to find the spacing, and now I see them through deliberate effort to slowly uncross my eyes until the image aligns So the result of the exercise would have actually been encouraging me to the use of deliberate intellect. Things in life only feel spontaneous when the neural network is on less reinforced pathways. Spontaneous to deliberate is a neuro-chemical difference that I don't see any spiritual significance from, other than enlightenment thourhg varied methods of experience. In fact, and this is where many think my "problem" is, I see intellect as spontaneous whether it is reacting to a whack, or tracing logical puzzles. Okay, everyone... fire away. Rod Scholl -----Original Message----- From: Alex Bunard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 8:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Zen] Illustrating the awakening How about this: I'm trying to illustrate to my students the concept of sudden awakening. There are many analogies and so on, but one just (re)ocurred to me -- do you recall those computer-generated blurred patterns that, if you look at them in a certain special way, a full-blown shape suddenly emerges before your eyes? Couldn't we say that sudden awakening is kinda, sorta like that? Like, one moment all you're aware of is this big blur, certain things tend to show a resemblance of a pattern and so on. You're hanging on to every sign of a reasonable pattern, trying to divine its meaning, but things always shift and change and it's beyond your grasp. Suddenly, the big picture emerges! Bam! Crank it up a notch! So, it's never like you were almost there, or at one point you were able to see 25% of the big picture, or 75%, or even 99%. It's always all or nothing. Either you see 100%, or you see 0%. Sudden. Not gradual. What do you experts say? Is this good enough for a group of students, or is this going to mislead them? I know most of you will say I'm full of excrements for even daring to talk about this, but hey, let's exchange some thoughts! Thanks. Alex ===== No karma was produced during the composition of this letter _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
