Dear Joyce and all Sangha,

I have understood Buddhist Zen teachings to say that
joy is not the opposite of suffering, it can be
present for us in the midst of situations that usually
cause suffering.  It's the joy that comes from the
radiance of being, of experiencing our lives as they
are, doing what needs to be done in the moment without
the torment of all those bad habits of  mind that tell
us things needs to be different, or things needs to
stay exactly as they are.  I have heard joy to be
exactly what's happening minus our opinion of it, with
no desire to eliminate or add anything. The good news
is that it is accessible to us all the time.  We have
joy when we are ill, we have joy when we get a new
job.

Joy to the world, all the boys and girls, joy to the
fishes in the deep blue sea, joy to you and me! (TDN) 

Thanks,
Diana

--- Jody W Ianuzzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello Alex,
> 
> Thank you, I do understand what you are saying.  If
> we can eliminate 
> suffering, should we also eliminate joy?
> 
> JODY 
> 
> 
> 


                
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