Rod,

I will put an end to your suffering right now:

Right this moment, as we speak, you are incapable of
perceiving true suchness. With me so far? So long as
you cannot perceive suchness, you need to listen to
the beings who can. Abandon your own understanding of
what is the 'right motivation', your own understanding
that 'you are already a Buddha', etc. All these are
completely wrong. And they are completely useless.

Focus on the teaching, and on the practice. Don't try
to be too smart for your own good. Don't go with the
newfangled theories proposed by the latter day gurus
(the "I'm okay, you're okay" drivel).

Learn all you can about Two Truths. Therein lies the
keys of being able to perceive unborn suchness.

Once you get there, then we can talk.

Alex


--- Rod Scholl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Alex,
> 
> I hesitate to dismantle your ideas by pointing out
> their fallacies, but they are so glaring it is
> tempting.  But I once spent an hour doing that for
> you when you first arrived, to which you missed the
> post due to self-involvement, or just ignored it. 
> Either way, I recevied your message.  However,
> you've stated your erroneous approach so succinctly,
> the oppurtunity would be a shame to ignore:
> 
> I'm glad you state your position on suffering,
> buddhahood and practice so clearly, Alex.  Do you
> see that the way you describe it, Buddhahood is a
> goal to be acheived by practice, and thus the
> practice is motivated?  This is not 'right
> motivation'.  You are already a Buddha.  If the
> criteria for buddhahood was 'eliminated suffering'
> as you say, than to check for dharma transmission
> one could simply whack the applicants thumb with a
> hammer!  "In summer we sweat."  Non-attachment to
> suffering will let it fall away as I think you know.
>  But I think you then expect it not to arise due to
> this non-attachment.  When one can let it fall away,
> one can also let it arise.
> 
> When you call my posts "ad hominem" attacks, it is a
> funny accusation.  It is indicative of what I think
> you fail to see.  The use of any ideas or knowledge
> is NOT to form a good idea, or logical idea, or even
> a consistent idea, to which to conform one's
> behavior.  Behavior supercedes ideas, and makes
> ideas (not the other way around).  Thus it is your
> behavior by which you are judged.  Indeed, it was by
> behavior that you said you'd judge the better
> teacher when they come along (you used 'complaining
> less' as a criteria). Thus any post which failed to
> be somewhat 'ad hominem' would be caught up in
> ideas, rather than the immediate.  
> 
> Rod Scholl



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