Chet,

I can reliably reproduce a bug where, even after verifying that the
"ccmHistoryRunningLastChanged" OID has been updated, the device isn't
fully remodeled:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ zenmodeler run --debug --device uspdxvg01.vestas.net
INFO:zen.ZenModeler:starting collector loop
INFO:zen.ZenModeler:collecting for device uspdxvg01.vestas.net
INFO:zen.ZenModeler:no cmd plugins found for uspdxvg01.vestas.net
INFO:zen.ZenModeler:snmp collection device uspdxvg01.vestas.net
INFO:zen.ZenModeler:plugins: zenoss.snmp.CiscoHSRP,
zenoss.snmp.CiscoMap, zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap,
zenoss.snmp.RouteMap
INFO:zen.ZenModeler:no portscan plugins found for uspdxvg01.vestas.net
lastpolluptime = 134937116
lastchange = 134965132
INFO:zen.SnmpClient:snmp client finished collection for
uspdxvg01.vestas.net
INFO:zen.ApplyDataMap:no change detected
INFO:zen.ZenModeler:scan time: 0.42 seconds
INFO:zen.ZenModeler:stopping...

note "lastpolluptime" and "lastchange" are different, yet I have to use
the -F flag in order for the modeler to update the device.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Luther
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 November, 2007 13:59
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [zenoss-users] Modeling devices automagically?
> 
> > We are monitoring a few cisco switches and routers.
> > The thing is that we get graphs on the if that were up when the  
> > discovery runned, But when things changes in like if description,  
> > interfaces goes up and so on... The device don't update unless we  
> > run a model device manually.
> >
> > Is that the correct way or do I have to do anything in a 
> cron job or  
> > such?
> 
> This is actually due to a Cisco specific feature of Zenoss. Cisco  
> devices have an OID that you can query to determine the last time  
> anything about the device was changed. If we have modeled the device  
> since this time, we skip modeling. Unfortunately it appears 
> as though  
> Cisco devices don't reliably update this value so changes are 
> missed.  
> The reason that manually modeling the devices works is that 
> it sets a  
> "--force" flag on the modeling that skips the Cisco check.
> 
> You can make this the default behavior of zenmodeler by stopping it  
> and running "zenmodeler start --force" from the command line as the  
> zenoss user.
> 
> Ticket:
> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/2004
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