On Jan 9, 2008, at 7:38 PM, Noël Dellofano wrote:

> Yep, these issues are known and I've listed them with explanations on
> on our website under "The State of the ZFS on OS X World":
> http://zfs.macosforge.org/
>
> We're working on them.  The Trash and iTunes bugs should be fixed
> soon.  The "your non-replicated drive just went MIA" panic will take a
> little longer as it requires a more complex fix that will need to
> involve diskutil and friends while also preserving the integrity of
> your pool and all the data therin.

I don't have any non-replicated drives so I never ran into this
particular issue. The panics when brining devices online were
always for mirrors.

I realize that I wasn't clear before. Since the by request only 101
and continuing with the 102A release, I have been able to do rude things
to the external portion of my mirrors without experiencing a panic.


> This is also a problem the Solaris
> ZFS team is working on as well, it's just not as common that people
> rip out live drives from a Thumper :)

That was almost the first thing I did when we got one to play with :)

>
>
> Noel
>
> On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Shawn Ferry wrote:
>
>> Noël,
>>
>> To try and get regular use out of ZFS on OS X I moved all of my
>> Music directory a mirrored pool implemented as a slice of my internal
>> disk and a FW enclosure.
>>
>> There are a few issues I see in using ZFS for end user applications
>> at the moment.
>>
>> 1) Trash doesn't work
>>      You adding files to the trash seems to work but you
>>      can't empty it without manually going to the .Trashes
>>      directory and manually removing files
>> 2) You can't download new iTunes Store music through iTunes
>>      iTunes can download podcasts and add new music from
>>      local files even using the consolidate music option
>> 3) It was somewhat prone to causing panics
>>      mainly bringing devices back online or rudely disconnecting
>>      them
>> 4) once the kext is loaded it appears that any user can perform any
>> action e.g. anybody can create or delete a snapshot or a pool
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>> On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Noël Dellofano wrote:
>>
>>>> As soon as I get in to work and can backup my sparsebundle to a
>>>> spare
>>>> MBP, I'm going to start banging on it.
>>>
>>> Sweet deal :)
>>>
>>>> So, do you have all of /Users on zfs, just one account, have you
>>>> tried
>>>> a FileVaulted account too? Or is that just crazy talk? :-)
>>>
>>> I currently just have one account, my personal one, to use ZFS.   
>>> Then
>>> I just have another local admin account that uses HFS+ that I don't
>>> really use for anything except occasional testing.  In my current
>>> setup, I created a pool, and I have 2 filesystems in it, one of  
>>> which
>>> is my home directory.  Then I just created my  account and pointed  
>>> it
>>> to use that directory for my home dir.
>>> I haven't experimented with File Vault yet at all, so feel free to
>>> have at it.  Hopefully when we get encryption for ZFS then we'll be
>>> able to just offer it natively that way.
>>>
>>> Noel
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2008, at 9:17 PM, Joe Block wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the pointer. I had just checked ADC for a new download
>>>> this
>>>> morning, actually.
>>>>
>>>> As soon as I get in to work and can backup my sparsebundle to a
>>>> spare
>>>> MBP, I'm going to start banging on it.
>>>>
>>>> So, do you have all of /Users on zfs, just one account, have you
>>>> tried
>>>> a FileVaulted account too? Or is that just crazy talk? :-)
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 8, 2008 2:09 PM, Noël Dellofano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is just a quick announcement to say that the ZFS on OS X
>>>>> port is
>>>>> now posted for your viewing fun at:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://zfs.macosforge.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> The page is also linked off of the ZFS Open Solaris page under  
>>>>> "ZFS
>>>>> Ports":
>>>>> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/porting/
>>>>>
>>>>> This page holds the status for the ZFS on OSX port and includes a
>>>>> small FAQ, some known bugs, announcements, and will include more  
>>>>> as
>>>>> time goes on.  It also holds the latest source code and binaries
>>>>> that
>>>>> you can download to your hearts content.  So if you have a Mac,  
>>>>> are
>>>>> running Leopard, and are feeling bleeding edge please try it out.
>>>>> Comments, questions, suggestions and feedback are all very  
>>>>> welcome.
>>>>> I also want to point out this is BETA.  We're still working on
>>>>> getting
>>>>> some features going, as well as fleshing out issues with Finder,
>>>>> Disk
>>>>> Util, iTunes, and other parts of the system.  So when I say
>>>>> bleeding,
>>>>> I'm not kidding :)  However I'm excited to say that I'm happily
>>>>> running ZFS as my home directory on my MacBook Pro which is what I
>>>>> work off of every day, and am running weekly snapshots which I  
>>>>> 'zfs
>>>>> send' to my external drive.  Oh happy day.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks!
>>>>> Noel Dellofano
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Joe Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Macintosh System Administrator
>>>> +1.650.253.7264
>>>>
>>>> Information is the currency of democracy.
>>>> -Thomas Jefferson
>>>
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>> Sun Managed Operations
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