He did. And I couldn't supply "one."

It's kind of like saying that the answer to life, the universe and everything is 42.

Steven Montgomery wrote:

> I thought John asked for a "single best" source on the subject, both pro
> and con? <grin>
>
> --
> Steven Montgomery
>
> At 10:43 AM 11/8/2002, you wrote:
> >Strictly speaking, I honestly don't know, because I don't consider
> >evolution to
> >be a moral issue which one is "converted" to -- it's just a toolset for
> >approaching one question on how the physical world works, like any other
> >theory.
> >You probably suspected I'd respond that way, but it's true.  Also, it's
> >difficult
> >to give a succinct summary of such a complex theory in this kind of forum --
> >there's just too much that has to be taught in terms of principles, and
> >I'm not
> >sure I'm up to it. But in the *spirit* of your request...
> >
> >I wouldn't suggest this for a beginner, but the best and most up-to-date
> >general
> >actual textbook, meant for university courses, is probably the relatively new,
> >but very long book that Stephen Jay Gould published just before he died, "The
> >Structure of Evolutionary Theory." (see
> 
>><<http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/item.asp?Catalog=Books&Section=Books&Cat=&Lang=en&Item=978067400613&mscssid=7EWCQDA2HCDH9N0KVA6BR44QDALM242A&WSID=12118329ED39C4EC4ACA9E25931C6F6D34DA1308>>
> >for a description). I believe it's used at BYU for Zoology 475, which is the
> >evolution course taught by Drs. Whiting and Jeffery this semester, from what I
> >understand. (For the course's web site, from which you can also get the BYU
> >package, see http://zoology.byu.edu/zool475/)
> >
> >If you're interested in "apologetics" in the sense of anti-creationism, the
> >talk.origins website is one of the best on-line resources that I know of.
> >http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-qa.html -- they have some good FAQs on
> >various topics.
> >
> >The best LDS book I've read, which has the advantage that it doesn't just
> >cover
> >evolution, but other scientific topics, including the Big Bang, is Clark,
> >David
> >L.; ed. Of Heaven and Earth: Reconciling Scientific Thought With LDS Theology"
> >(Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1998). I have a review and some
> >excerpts at:
> >http://www.members.shaw.ca/mschindler/A/Of Heaven and Earth.htm
> >
> >There are two good books by non-LDS on the topic, and they have the
> >advantage of
> >being inexpensive paperbacks and not overly long and not overly technical:
> >
> >(Gould, the late well-known Harvard palaeontologist, described himself as a
> >secular Jewish agnostic, but he's the one who coined the term Non-overlapping
> >Magisteria (NOMA). He was not the first to refer to the concept, however -- I
> >have citations from a RC cardinal who tried to help Galileo (who was his own
> >worst enemy in many ways), and also, intriguingly, the 1931 letter from
> >the Heber
> >J. Grant 1Presidency to all GAs which is quoted in the article "Evolution"
> >in the
> >Encyclopedia of Mormonism. Miller is, I believe, Catholic, but definitely a
> >believer. He's also a biochemist).
> >
> >Stephen Jay Gould, Rocks of Ages: Science and Religion in the Fullness of Life
> >(New York: Ballantine Books, 1999). I'm reading this now and will post a
> >review
> >to my website when I'm finished.
> >
> >Miller, Kenneth. Finding Darwin's God: a Scientist's Search for Common Ground
> >Between God and Evolution (New York: HarperCollins, 1999). (I have a review of
> >this, along with some excerpts, on my website:
> >http://www.members.shaw.ca/mschindler/A/miller.htm
> >
> >For an interesting essay by a Latter-day Saint on why some GAs have taught
> >against evolution, see: http://www.whyprophets.com/prophets/evolution.htm  (I
> >like this because he agrees with me :-)). Seriously, he says there's a common
> >conception of evolution which lay people have which is wrong and is a
> >straw man.
> >The GAs arguments have been, by and large, against this straw man, but Chris
> >Tolworthy makes the argument that prophets can't always afford to let
> >themselves
> >get bogged down in detail and have to make a "clear statement," and I
> >agree with
> >this (this is the flip side of being resistant to what I consider
> >over-literalistic interpretation; it also allows me to incorporate things
> >which
> >might at first disturb me, like what I saw to be the "flat-out ignorance" of
> >Pres. Smith's Man: His Origin and Destiny, as I put it to my senior home
> >teaching
> >companion at the time.)
> >
> >Ironically, one of the best lay explanations of evolution, although it's a bit
> >outdated, was actually in an official Church magazine. You may recall that
> >before
> >the correlated new publications of Ensign/Liahona/New Era/Friend came out, the
> >Sunday School had their own monthly, called The Instructor. Harrison,
> >Bertrand F.
> >"The Relatedness of Living Things," The Instructor, July 1965: 272-276 is an
> >explanation of how evolution works. I have it online at:
> >http://www.members.shaw.ca/mschindler/A/eyring_11.htm
> >
> >And Pres. Stephen L. Richards refers to the inspiration which guides all
> >scientists, including Darwin, in a letter to college students that was
> >published
> >in The Improvement Era (predecessor to the Ensign). Again, I have this
> >online at:
> >http://www.members.shaw.ca/mschindler/A/eyring_12.htm
> >
> >And finally, if you can hang tight, I might have another resource. I've
> >had the
> >idea for an article accepted by a well-known LDS publication (not Dialogue or
> >Sunstone), and a draft has been submitted. I can't reveal which
> >publication yet
> >because nothing is finalized yet, but I actually had in my mind, while writing
> >this, several "virtual personalities" to whom I "addressed" the article. They
> >include you and my younger son (who's at the opposite end -- he's a 3rd year
> >astrophysics student at our counterpart to MIT and is agnostic, more or less).
> >Even if it's not accepted, I'll post it on my website. I have an essay
> >there now,
> >called "eppur si riconciliano" (thanks again, Stephen, for the help with the
> >title), but the essay isn't very well written, frankly. I think my new article
> >expresses my thoughts much better.
> >
> >Hope that helps as a start.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"John W. Redelfs" wrote:
> >
> > > Marc,
> > >
> > > Who in your opinion presents the best, book length, argument in favor of
> > > evolution?  And who in your opinion best presents the best argument against
> > > evolution?  I ask these questions so that I might systematically study both
> > > sides of the issue to see who has the better arguments using the criteria
> > > that are important to me.  I ask you because you seem to be the resident
> > > expert on this topic.
> > >
> > > Incidentally, I am not asking for a book list, not even a short one.  I
> > > want your evaluation, your carefully considered opinion on the best
> > > argument for each side.
> > >
> > > John W. Redelfs                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > ===========================================
> > > We tend to scoff at the beliefs of the ancients.  But we
> > > can't scoff at them personally, to their faces, and this is
> > > what annoys me. --Jack Handy
> > > ===========================================
> > > All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR
> > >
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