I never said that the US had a free market - it doesn't.  Under my terms,
our economic system would be classified as partial secondary capitalism.
Imagine what would happen to better the lives of all the "oppressed" if we
had full primary capitalism!  Some, who have become vassals of the federal
government, would hate it.  But they would get over it.

Jon

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From: "John W. Redelfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:32 PM
Subject: [ZION] There is no free market.


> Jon Spencer favored us with:
> >Unfortunately, the article you gave us talked about the evils of
RESTRICTED
> >CAPITALISM, not free markets.  I mean, how can a market which includes a
> >dictator who manipulates the market be called a "free market?"
>
> How can a central bank controlling the money supply be considered a free
> market? How can a market that is heavily taxed to promote a social agenda
> be considered a "free market?" How can a market regulated with tens of
> thousands of pages of regulations administered by dozens of independent
> federal regulatory agencies be considered a "free market."
>
> There is no free market.  The word has no meaning in today's
> America.  People who speak of free markets first need to learn the meaning
> of laissez-faire.  There is no nation on earth today with a free
> market.  If we define fascism as an unfree market where private property
is
> absolutely controlled by the central government, then the USA today is a
> fascist state.
>
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