Well, the trouble unfortunately is that when man gets together with his fellows there is usually bound to be some contention somewhere once in a while. I don't know how the Nephites were able to do it for so long except that once Christ makes an appearance it usually works for a long period of time. Unless He makes such an appearance it doesn't work. We've now had a little over two thousand years to prove this fact since the last appearance of Christ.

Stacy.

At 10:34 AM 06/15/2003 -0600, you wrote:

Stacy, I am not interested in joining a list that only discusses one topic,
although it might be interesting.  I am really interested in a group of
committed LDS that can discuss and suggest and gently critique the thoughts
of others.  There are a lot of questions that I feel need to be discussed -
more as a way of checking my own understanding as well as sharing my
insights with others.

Most lists that say they want to do this allow Anti-Mormons to get on and
dominate with their horrible comments.  Or allow one person with an extreme,
or even a not so extreme but unyielding view, to dominate.  Too often one
person will not be willing to discuss anything of real meaning because
He/She already has the "answer."  I would like to find a list that does not
have that problem.

B H Roberts said:  "In essentials, let us have unity.  In non-essentials,
let us have liberty.  In all things, let us have charity."  (If not an exact
quote it is close.)

That would be a nice standard for any list.

George

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stacy Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Goodbye


> George, I guess I'm still here. I thought I had unsubscribed, but maybe I > got sidetracked. There's been so much going on in my life I don't always > check to see what lists I'm on anymore. What kinds of things do you wish > to discuss? Eternal progression? Exaltation? What will happen to each > one of us? I'm not sure I know the answer to the last question as my > entire life hasn't come up for review yet. I know I'll have some regrets > about the way I've handled my last working situation and I'm afraid I'm > going to be in hot water over that one, since I can't right every wrong I > committed in that situation. That's my one big regret and I honestly worry > I'm going to lose out on that one. > > Stacy. > > At 07:29 PM 06/14/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > >I had great hopes of finding a list where I could discuss gospel topics with > >true believers and not have the anti -Mormon baiters always jumping in with > >their obnoxious comments. > > > >It would be nice if the fellow participants would be willing to discuss > >without being judgmental if we happen to disagree a bit. > > > > I am still looking and would be interested if one of those 10 might fit the > >criteria. > > > >Otherwise I will likely just give up and go back to my study and figure it > >all out by myself. > > > >George > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Bill Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 11:08 AM > >Subject: Re: [ZION] Goodbye > > > > > > > When you consider why people leave certain lists, I find you must consider > >the other lists (if any) a person may review. > > > > > > Although, I consider myself a "lurker", I'm a member of about 10 other > >mormon related lists, and I like this one the best. > > > > > > When you consider what is being said on some of the yahoo groups, like > >thinker, polygomy, libertarian, etc; this is the most tame one that I have > >come across. > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott McGee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Steven asked: "Why leave the list because of the few?" > > > > > > I completely understand Gary's reasons for leaving. Once upon a time, > > > this list was place where we met together with friends and discussed the > > > gospel and all kinds of other things. It was a great source pleasure and > > > an opportunity to meet many new friends too. > > > > > > Now, however, the list has changed to be more of a debating society. It > > > is a place where people come to debate and contend with each other about > > > gospel related (usually) subjects. > > > > > > Like Gary, I have thought of leaving the list. The major reason I have > > > not is that there continue to be a number of good friends (like Gary, > > > also JWR, ELF, Grandpa Bill, and many others) who post occasional notes. > > > I enjoy this association with them, even though it is often hidden among > > > the other posts. I would probably have already left the list if volume > > > weren't so much lower than I can afford to wade through the rubbish > > > looking for my friends. > > > > > > The list, as a whole, brings me no more of the joy it once did. I just > > > loath losing touch with my friends. > > > > > > Oh, one more point. I used to read each and every post to the list. Even > > > when there were were hundreds a day! When you start skipping threads and > > > such, however, you start to lose interest in most of the day to day > > > chatter that makes up the list. THat is the biggest problem with those > > > who say "if you don't like this discussion, just delete it!" Once you > > > start that, the list becomes just a list of email messages, not a > > > community to you. 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