At 06:48 AM 7/17/03 -0700, Bill Johnson wrote:
I don't think one will know for sure that their election has been made sure until one has died. As long as we live and breathe, we are sinning. A scripture that says something to the effect of: "All has sinned and has come short of the glory of God" is very true.

It comes down to the thought that if you are sinning, how for heavens sake cane one have their calling made sure? You can't at least in this life time.

AFAIK, the only way you could know in this life is if God told you, as he did Alma:

"Blessed art thou, Alma, [...] Thou art my servant; and I covenant with thee that thou shalt have eternal life; and thou shalt serve me and go forth in my name, and shalt gather together my sheep." (Mosiah 26:15, 20)

which might provide an answer to the question which started this thread: as far as we know from the account we have in the scriptures, did Alma start out with a checklist, or did he go about doing the will of God without thought of reward and then God surprised him one day by telling him the above?

-- Ronn! :)

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