Although I concur with your comments I find the use of the term "Free
Agency" to be a poor choice of words.  Notwithstanding it has become a
popular term in the church.  Rather the idea of Moral Agency is the more
useful and I believe correct term.

Freedom is a part of Moral Agency, but only a part.  Intelligent action
based on an understanding of God's will and the consequences of action is
also a crucial part of Agency.

You are correct when you identify the tremendous barriers, in this life, to
a proper use of this crucial and eternal principle.  I do not believe that
it is possible to truly exercise perfect agency in this life - for anyone,
although some have a better opportunity than others.  The last chance we had
to excursive perfect agency was in the pre-existence in the presence of God.
That is why that choice was so crucial - it set the stage for all that
happened subsequently.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Cobabe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 3:16 AM
Subject: [ZION] freedom versus free agency

> Free agency is an inviolable gift from Heavenly Father.  Each of us has
> absolute free agency to make choices for good or evil.
> Our freedom, on the other hand, is constantly subjected to bounds and
> conditions and restrictions.  Our freedom is constrained by natural
> laws, by self-imposed restrictions, by the impositions of other
> individuals, and by society in general.
> What is the effect of free agency in the absence of absolute freedom?
> What if government laws constrain my free exercise of choice?  Perhaps
> Heavenly Father will judge my decisions based on what I would have done
> had I been completely free to act.
> In 2 Nephi 2:16, we read that enticement is a necessary element in our
> decision-making exercise of free agency.  What does it mean to be
> "enticed" in choosing between good and evil?  Is the test of mortal
> probation in part intended to demonstrate (to myself) which choices are
> most "enticing" or attractive to me personally?  I assume that Heavenly
> Father already knew my inclination toward good or evil choices, but that
> it was something I needed to learn for myself.
> ---
> Jim Cobabe
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