Good point. When Jesus was associating with these people they were definitely outsiders. The general complaint was that he was associating with the lowest class of people.


At 08:25 AM 09/08/2003 -0800, you wrote:

Rick Mathis wrote:
What did Jesus do? Did he refuse to associate with sinners? According to what we have in the New Testament, Paul definitely had his own set of issues, including bragging about correcting the President of the Church at that time. He was a product of his culture and training.

Paul was specifically speaking of Church members or "a man that is called a brother." Jesus Christ did not associate with fornicators in the Church, nor did he ever suggest that unrepentant fornicators should be brought into the Church. Obviously a missionary has to associate with sinners in order to do missionary work. But only those who have faith unto repentance are invited into the Church through baptism. That does not mean that we are to fellowship unrepentant fornicators in the Church. In fact, unrepentant fornicators in the Church are to be excommunicated, and generally they are.

Our prophets teach that sexual sin is second only to murder. Do faithful Church members associate with drug pushers or cocaine addicts? Do we hang out in bars? I don't think so. Then why should we associate with unrepentant fornicators in the Church?

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