Hiram Chirino wrote:
looks like you guys are not in the PMC.  Sorry about that.  But it
bring us a weird governance issue which is very anti Apahe..  usually
an Apache project is self governed, but from the look of the
authorization file, it seems like the zookeeper committers cannot
properly self govern.  It makes things like doing releases, adding new
committers and pmc members much more complex since the PMC members are
not actively working on the project.

PMC members (like me) are expected to monitor the project. I don't moderate this list, but I'd be surprised if a few other PMC members are not also following it. We hope to eventually promote some of Zookeeper's committers to the Hadoop PMC. All seasoned committers should be on the PMC, but the Zookeeper folks are still relative newbies at Apache and none have made it there yet.

To some degree the Hadoop PMC is incubating Zookeeper. Zookeeper's committers are like the PPMC. If things go well, as with all Hadoop committers, they'll be nominated to Hadoop's PMC. There'll be no formal graduation, just gradual maturation. If the community diverges sufficiently from Hadoop's, then it may someday make sense to promote Zookeeper to a TLP.


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