Have you guys setup a zookeeper-private list for the zookeeper ppmc +
hadoop pmc to have private discussions?
If not, I highly recommend it since it would be the only practical
viecel for the ppmc to nominate new commiters or raise sensitive
issues the the pmc.

Regards,
HIram

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Hiram Chirino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok good...  as long as the PMC folks are participating it should not
> be a problem.
>
> Regards,
> Hiram
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Doug Cutting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hiram Chirino wrote:
>>>
>>> looks like you guys are not in the PMC.  Sorry about that.  But it
>>> bring us a weird governance issue which is very anti Apahe..  usually
>>> an Apache project is self governed, but from the look of the
>>> authorization file, it seems like the zookeeper committers cannot
>>> properly self govern.  It makes things like doing releases, adding new
>>> committers and pmc members much more complex since the PMC members are
>>> not actively working on the project.
>>
>> PMC members (like me) are expected to monitor the project.  I don't moderate
>> this list, but I'd be surprised if a few other PMC members are not also
>> following it.  We hope to eventually promote some of Zookeeper's committers
>> to the Hadoop PMC.  All seasoned committers should be on the PMC, but the
>> Zookeeper folks are still relative newbies at Apache and none have made it
>> there yet.
>>
>> To some degree the Hadoop PMC is incubating Zookeeper.  Zookeeper's
>> committers are like the PPMC.  If things go well, as with all Hadoop
>> committers, they'll be nominated to Hadoop's PMC.  There'll be no formal
>> graduation, just gradual maturation.  If the community diverges sufficiently
>> from Hadoop's, then it may someday make sense to promote Zookeeper to a TLP.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>
>
>
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