Danny William Adair wrote:
> Have you seen this interview?
> http://www.zopera.org/site/Members/odeckmyn/iv_paul_2001 (recently
> announced on this list)
> Quote: "Regarding CMF, we expect it to disappear in its current
> form, ..."
> Introduced to us as the "Portal Toolkit", later labeled as "probably
> evolving into a commercial product" (couldn't find it in the
> archives when I tried a minute ago, but I know I wasn't dreaming
> when I read it), then renamed to "Content Management Framework" and
> the out-of-the-box solution for site developers that need
> membership, skinning, an easy content management interface, and
> pluggable add-ons, Paul Everitt now calls it "a big prototype for
> the new architecture". Although I think that this is not how it all
> started, not even how it meant to be less than a year ago, you see
> that your concerns are no longer something to worry about. The
> "good things" will be taken to the Zope core, the rest will remain
> interesting only for people who actually "implement".
Yikes! I need to get a clarification back to Olivier regarding my point
on all this.
First, the PTK/CMF evolved separately from Zope, which made it move
pretty quickly. All along with thought in terms of the PTK/CMF trying
out things that the more conservative Zope development wasn't going after.
As we started thinking about Zope3 and a component architecture, we took
a look at some of the ideas in the CMF and felt they were a valid
approach. As such, the CMF could be thought of as a shipping prototype
for ideas that will make it into Zope3.
It's true that much of the CMF code should disappear if Zope3 does its
job. Perhaps around 50% of the Python code, for instance. The
remainder is in areas that we had mixed success on anyway -- namely, the
CMFDemo portal doesn't really try to be an out-of-the-box finished
product. Most of us would be thrilled to see a different "killer app"
develop that took the place of this in Zope3.
Certainly existing CMF users shouldn't be worried. For instance, we're
planning two important customer engagements that are _just_ starting
which will be CMF based. We want to work with people doing projects
similar to the CMF and get some common ideas/machinery into the
Regarding the PTK possibly becoming a commercial product...well, some
evolutionary paths are dead ends. :^)
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