If I remember correctly, though, there was still a lot in question about legitimate use cases. The web-services cluster-safety use-case I sketched out here (http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-dev/2002-October/003112.html) is still (perhaps) a valid case, but ONLY in a very-carefully constructed application (and even that case leaves me wanting a better app-level way to do it).
I think I agree with the feeling that versions should stay in ZODB, but be depreciated/marked as "official evil" in ZMI. Sean > -----Original Message----- > From: Guido van Rossum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 5:08 PM > To: Paul Winkler > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Versions: should they die? > > > > To anyone not following the "Problem committing zope > 'version' objects" > > thread on [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's been proposed that Versions should be > > at least stamped in the ZMI with big warnings, or possibly disabled > > altogether. Numerous users have been bit by the fact that versions > > basically do not work as advertised, leading in various > cases to zodb > > corruption or work that can't be saved. There are other > security issues > > that Oliver Bleutgen raised privately which I won't state here. > > > > Comments? Could we get at least some warnings in the ZMI before > > 2.6.2 final? > > IMO versions do nothing except complexify the code. I believe it's an > official Zope Corp position to discourage them for new projects. Yet > Jeremy Hylton seems to think that they are somehow useful and has > carefully preserved them in ZODB 4 (== Zope 3). If it were up to me, > they would have been gone, with a big helping of YAGNI! > > --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) > > _______________________________________________ > Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) > _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )