Hey Michael,

Thanks for the input!

Michael Bayer wrote:
So I've already not liked save_on_init for a couple of years due to its inherent intrusiveness, and because SA historically does not like being in the business of providing framework features (though we have decided to stay in that arena to some degree with declarative and scoped_session).

I'll try to summarize the discussion so I can find out whether I understand it. Basically you're saying you don't think save on instantiation is a good idea generally, and that we should be using session.save(). This is going to be changed to session.add() in the future. What would session.add_all() do?

This ties into the mapper feature, which also offers other features. The one feature that will remain but in a new shape, without the mapper, is the ability to do MyClass.query.

Is that a correct summary?



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