-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: > Thanks for posting this. (Thank you too Chris for starting the Zope 4 > thread.) Despite the inevitable bike shedding, I think this is a > discussion worth having. > > Here are my opinions, which build on the arguments you gave, even > though I disagree with some of your conclusions. > > 1. I hate "Zope Classic". It was a mistake for Coke and I think it > would be a mistake for us too. :) > > 2. I think Zope 3 the application should die. It should go the way of > New Coke. > > 3. I think the word "Zope" should refer to both the application > currently called Zope 2 and the Zope ecosystem, depending on context, > although I'm also fine with coming up with another name as long as it > doesn't imply obsolescence. :)
Amen to all of that. WRT the "Framework" name: "framework" is a misleading name for the collection of packages salvaged from the "new Coke" effort: it is actually a *bunch* of frameworks, in the classic software engineering sense, along with some "pure" libraries. The notional "Zope Framwork" is alos *not* what other Python web developers mean when they say "web framework": Grok and BFG fit that meaning. Zope2 is really an "app server" / "pluggable application", rather than a "web framework". Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJ3QAR+gerLs4ltQ4RAjzaAJ43T+lwhHt9KCiVHsw1V+/tN2aZFACfc5HA bWiGfqU8wk4/dGpDd5pD0ZQ= =qAY1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )